Rise of remote work

[actaeon277]

the line workers refrained from commenting

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

GM delays return-to-work plans to 2023

General Motors Co on Tuesday said it will not mandate workers return to offices before 2023 after it had told them on Friday that they would be expected to work three days on-campus each week later this year.

www.reuters.com

Mary must have had a mutiny on her hands.

 

[wtburnette]

I can guess the conversation in the town hall "You guys and gals are the best. You took one for the team and worked from home during the lockdowns and we've managed to continue to beat productivity goals due to your dedication and diligence. We're wasting a lot of money on buildings with no employees in them, so even though you did fantastic working from home, we now want your butts in chairs in the office, doing the lousy morning commute and working with your manager looking over your shoulder and your coworker loudly talking on the phone in the cube next to you on a personal call. Oh yeah and we're rolling out this great new open office concept for you all to enjoy".

And they wonder why people don't want to come back...

 

[KLB]

I can guess the conversation in the town hall "You guys and gals are the best. You took one for the team and worked from home during the lockdowns and we've managed to continue to beat productivity goals due to your dedication and diligence. We're wasting a lot of money on buildings with no employees in them, so even though you did fantastic working from home, we now want your butts in chairs in the office, doing the lousy morning commute and working with your manager looking over your shoulder and your coworker loudly talking on the phone in the cube next to you on a personal call. Oh yeah and we're rolling out this great new open office concept for you all to enjoy".

And they wonder why people don't want to come back...

You reminded me of a former coworker that was hard of hearing and did a lot of personal business at the office on his speaker phone. People could hear him talking at the other end of the floor. We heard about his taekwondo school, his car issues, his nanny, his sister's mental issues, etc.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I can guess the conversation in the town hall "You guys and gals are the best. You took one for the team and worked from home during the lockdowns and we've managed to continue to beat productivity goals due to your dedication and diligence. We're wasting a lot of money on buildings with no employees in them, so even though you did fantastic working from home, we now want your butts in chairs in the office, doing the lousy morning commute and working with your manager looking over your shoulder and your coworker loudly talking on the phone in the cube next to you on a personal call. Oh yeah and we're rolling out this great new open office concept for you all to enjoy".

And they wonder why people don't want to come back...

It's probably even more old school than that: "You can't **** 'em if they're not here".

 

[gregkl]

You reminded me of a former coworker that was hard of hearing and did a lot of personal business at the office on his speaker phone. People could hear him talking at the other end of the floor. We heard about his taekwondo school, his car issues, his nanny, his sister's mental issues, etc.

We had a guy who did a lot of personal phone calls in our "cube farm." I knew about his screwed up sons, their drug problems, employment situations, vehicle woes. I knew how much money he had in his retirement portfolio(and I was a little envious. For being a flake, he did well saving for retirement) and I knew about his love life with his wife, ick.

He did not care that we all heard his conversations. The bedroom talk with his wife was the worst, lol.

 

[wtburnette]

I'm slightly hard of hearing and having just general office noise around me makes it difficult to be on phone calls (work related as I always go outside for personal calls). Actually due to my work being reading technical documents all day, office noise in general is very distracting. For these reasons, among others, remote work has been a godsend.

 

[Ingomike]

the line workers refrained from commenting

They were busy playing euchre or sleeping in the parts racks…

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

I've heard through the grapevine that going back to the office was actually considered by a manager at an office site... The scuttlebutt is more than a few people said they would probably look elsewhere for work. This is from people who have figured out the work-life balance and are much more productive. So far that idea got canned and the location is still scheduled for non-renewal of the lease.

 

[wtburnette]

I've heard through the grapevine that going back to the office was actually considered by a manager at an office site... The scuttlebutt is more than a few people said they would probably look elsewhere for work. This is from people who have figured out the work-life balance and are much more productive. So far that idea got canned and the location is still scheduled for non-renewal of the lease.

I told my manager point blank when the COVID lockdowns ended that if they were going to make noise about us moving back to the office that I would just find another job. 4 of 7 of us on the team said the same thing. Our CISO promised that we wouldn't have to go back in to the office if we didn't want to. When the CIO started making noise, he was told the InfoSec personnel who wanted to work from home were going to stay there. That was over a year ago and no one has brought it up since.

 

[bwframe]

Remote work could be the reason you don't have a job in 10 years

Outsourcing jobs could bring a “seismic” shock to knowledge workers.

fortune.com

 

[drillsgt]

I can guess the conversation in the town hall "You guys and gals are the best. You took one for the team and worked from home during the lockdowns and we've managed to continue to beat productivity goals due to your dedication and diligence. We're wasting a lot of money on buildings with no employees in them, so even though you did fantastic working from home, we now want your butts in chairs in the office, doing the lousy morning commute and working with your manager looking over your shoulder and your coworker loudly talking on the phone in the cube next to you on a personal call. Oh yeah and we're rolling out this great new open office concept for you all to enjoy".

And they wonder why people don't want to come back...

That's basically what IU did for those of us on the research side.

 

[Ingomike]

Remote work could be the reason you don't have a job in 10 years

Outsourcing jobs could bring a “seismic” shock to knowledge workers.

fortune.com

I was told on INGO this is not possible...

 

[KLB]

Remote work could be the reason you don't have a job in 10 years

Outsourcing jobs could bring a “seismic” shock to knowledge workers.

fortune.com

Pay wall. Do you have a subscription or are you just posting clickbait headlines?

 

[Ingomike]

Pay wall. Do you have a subscription or are you just posting clickbait headlines?

It opened for me easily…

 

[Ingomike]

It opened for me easily…

Then clicked it open again and ran into the paywall…

 

[KLB]

Then clicked it open again and ran into the paywall…

I got it on the first click and incognito

 

[KLB]

People that live in expensive urban areas are going to be the first to lose out. Companies will start looking all over the country for people. As posted above, they will offer people more than they would make locally while paying them less than it would cost in the urban area.

 

[Ingomike]

People that live in expensive urban areas are going to be the first to lose out. Companies will start looking all over the country for people. As posted above, they will offer people more than they would make locally while paying them less than it would cost in the urban area.

I agree, the urban pay scales will not last in the face of WFH and lower bidders in cheaper areas. Heck, some of those lower bidders may be those that fled the urban areas to more rural.

 

[wtburnette]

Remote work could be the reason you don't have a job in 10 years

Outsourcing jobs could bring a “seismic” shock to knowledge workers.

fortune.com

Paywall for me as well.

I find the premise flawed (just going from the title). I used to support people in the 90's who had telecommuter positions and those same positions still exist. As stated before, yes, some jobs will move overseas. This would happen if they were office jobs or remote worker positions. Some jobs can be outsourced. Whether you are working that position from home or in the office doesn't make a difference as to whether it can be sent overseas. Nothing about remote positions make them dead end positions. Business is always looking to do things cheaper if they can. That's why we have so much of our done in China and we saw during COVID how great that went.