Reduce Violence in Marion County

[Doug]

Here's a thought...
How about we hold every "felon in possession of a firearm" in jail without bail until trial. Do you think that would reduce shootings?

 

[armalitesheepdog]

There is not enough jail space.
Great thought though...........

 

[Zexrain]

They need more harsh punishment. I would support them holding them until trail. Why should they be trusted after repeating bad behavior. So they get bailed out to commit more crimes?

 

[Shadow01]

There is not enough jail space.
Great thought though...........

Bodies can be stacked

 

[OkieGirl]

Even a seven day mandatory hold on any first time 'felon in possession of firearm' would help immensely. Consider it a 'cooling off' period before bail can be offered. Second offense gets doubled that time, third doubles again and so forth and so on until there are no more felons available to detain?

 

[wcd]

Here's a thought...
How about we hold every "felon in possession of a firearm" in jail without bail until trial. Do you think that would reduce shootings?

Unfortunately there would be enough up and coming replacements to immediately take their place.

 

[Brandon]

There is not enough jail space.
Great thought though...........

Says who? Put em 5 or 6 to a cell. No need to worry about murderers. They'll take care of each other.

 

[Ark]

Here's a thought...
How about we hold every "felon in possession of a firearm" in jail without bail until trial. Do you think that would reduce shootings?

I don't think nonviolent felonies should remove gun rights automatically.

People with prior violent criminal histories? Absolutely yes, deny bail. No more of this 40+ violent crime arrests while out on bail from the other violent crimes nonsense.

Ultimately there is relatively little that can realistically be done to preemp first time criminals. Like if I just roll out of bed tomorrow and decide to hold up an armored car, there is almost nothing the law can do to stop me first unless I'm exceptionally stupid. But repeat violent offenders are a very different story, when we catch them the second time we have a pattern and we have an opportunity. It's very obvious that low/no bail and this ankle monitor crap isn't working.

But, I absolutely do acknowledge that endless imprisonment without trial is a huge constitutional violation (see: J6 political prisoners), so I don't think we can make this change without major court reform and dramatic acceleration of trial timelines.

 

[OkieGirl]

There is not enough jail space.
Great thought though........

I've thought of this also. Yes, conventional housing is a problem. Since this particular type of housing is only temporary perhaps a temporary solution is more appropriate. There was this Sheriff in a western state somewhere who chose to put folks in tents for a while...maybe a solution that is equally as uncomfortable as it is embarrassing is needed. Make the punishment unpleasant and the behavior that earned that moment tends to fade. I hated getting punished as a kid, it didn't take much to deter me from repeating what earned those stripes...

 

[pute62]

More street lights seem to be helping

 

[loudgroove]

I've thought of this also. Yes, conventional housing is a problem. Since this particular type of housing is only temporary perhaps a temporary solution is more appropriate. There was this Sheriff in a western state somewhere who chose to put folks in tents for a while...maybe a solution that is equally as uncomfortable as it is embarrassing is needed. Make the punishment unpleasant and the behavior that earned that moment tends to fade. I hated getting punished as a kid, it didn't take much to deter me from repeating what earned those stripes...

That was Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Ariz. He also made them wear pink jumpsuits. lol

 

[Vodnik4]

There is not enough jail space.
Great thought though...........

Get creative, learn from the best…

 

[Ziggidy]

There is not enough jail space.
Great thought though...........

Build more jails.

 

[jbombelli]

I know my opinion isn't popular, but as far as I'm concerned, anyone that's free to walk the streets is free to keep and bear arms, regardless of criminal record.

 

[Ziggidy]

First and foremost we need to apply the laws we have and apply them fully. We need to stop all the no bail, early release crap. We need to figure out how to influence the neighboring states into applying laws to criminals.

If we need more jails, so be it. If we can rebuild Ukraine, we can build a few new jails.

 

[Ziggidy]

I know my opinion isn't popular, but as far as I'm concerned, anyone that's free to walk the streets is free to keep and bear arms, regardless of criminal record.

Only problem with your thought is the prosecution is not applying the law to the criminals. There are some pretty bad people walking the streets that should be in jail. Let’s clean things up before we go your route.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Bodies can be stacked

And save us money by shooting them in the head with their own gat.

(for anyone not familiar, purple=sarcasm)

 

[armalitesheepdog]

I would be happy to spend more in Marion County Tax if I knew it would go directly to building and maintaining 3x the space we have now. With that if your not a violent offender you shouldn't be in jail. Ankle monitored house arrest for non violent offenders

 

[jbombelli]

Only problem with your thought is the prosecution is not applying the law to the criminals. There are some pretty bad people walking the streets that should be in jail. Let’s clean things up before we go your route.

That's not a problem with my thinking or my route. That's a prosecutor problem. Take it up with them.

 

[Ziggidy]

That's not a problem with my thinking or my route. That's a prosecutor problem. Take it up with them.

Did I say that was your problem? If you read my statement, I said we need to clean things up before we took your route. I never said your thinking was a problem. Relax.

BTW, it’s not just the prosecutors problem. It becomes ours. When criminals are allowed to walk the streets, repeat crimes occur - people suffer…some even die.