At least according to the article they couldn't find where the shots fired a few days earlier came from. Guessing they couldn't pinpoint from where due to lack of evidence(shell casings)
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Red flag orders - the left has found a magic bullet against guns
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At least according to the article they couldn't find where the shots fired a few days earlier came from. Guessing they couldn't pinpoint from where due to lack of evidence(shell casings)
The father reported when it happen.At least according to the article they couldn't find where the shots fired a few days earlier came from. Guessing they couldn't pinpoint from where due to lack of evidence(shell casings)
Thats not what i gather from the article. It states police subsequently learned that the guy liked to shoot from the window from the father. Subsequently, being the key word. So they learned after the fact he did this, which then led to the red flag law being used.
I doubt that there is a statute of limitations of a couple of days on that.
thunderchicken
Grandmaster
Would the guy shooting from the window have commited a misdemeanor or felony? If a misdemeanor, am I correct that LE would still need more evidence than just what the father said? I mean it sounds like all they had would be he said, he said. I'm not sure that would be enough to justify probable cause. And since many of us stand against red flag laws it would seem we would expect a little more evidence than just what his father said. Also I know the criminal code changed a lot a few years ago, but for a misdemeanor isn't it still best for an officer to be witness in absence of solid evidence?
I don't necessarily stand against red flag laws, where it's obvious there's a problem, and where common sense prevails. Unfortunately, that's hard to achieve in today's environment. There ARE people who need an interdiction to their use of weapons, but the devil's in the details. Do I trust the powers that be to apply common sense to any particular situation? Rarely, so maybe I'm agreeing with you. I've personally seen situations that warranted red flag procedures (before they even existed), and the outcome was not pretty.
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thunderchicken
Grandmaster
I too would agree there are some who need an interdiction and have guns confiscated..pending a psych evaluation & or investigation. But, I would say too that IF a LE officer or dept is holding guns for such an investigation the law needs to be very specific how/ when those guns are to be returned. Likewise the should be held to a higher level in preserving an individuals property. Ir should be photographed when recieved, boxed and kept in a climate controlled environment. This BS of cramming long guns into a barrel full of other guns is BS and should never happen. Or dropping andguns into a bulk container of other handguns is BS too. I have seen such barrels and heard from LE that is often how they are stored unless a piece of evidence in a crime.
rhino thinks that part needs to be established long before any such law is enacted. rhino is not comfortable with feeling around in the dark while there is a sharp knife exposed. Well, we know what rhino would do in that analogy, but he doesn't like it.
Has rhino been hanging around jedi lately?
This unconstitutional, absurd and illegal law will provide full employment for attorneys all over the country until some Federal courts step in and put a stop to this madness. It is orchestrated by left wing nut politicians who are playing to certain constituencies in return for campaign funding. It is ridiculous how money has perverted our political system. Makes me nuts! Happy New Year, everyone.
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It isn't even a law.
Despite Trump’s promises, anyone who thought this administration was going to be 2A friendly should know better by now. Due Process is an endangered species and about to become extinct:
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2...afety-commission-recommends-gun-confiscation/
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2...afety-commission-recommends-gun-confiscation/
HubertGummer
Master
We already have gun grabbing Dems....we don't need gun grabbing Repubs as well....almost like both sides want the same thing.
Problem is, it seems EVERYONE is on board.
But why would you want dangerous people to have guns?
That's what they say.
No matter how many times you talk about proof, innocent, bad people calling in so women get their gun taken and can't defend themselves...
Doesn't matter. Until we can knock them over the head with SOMETHING, they are controlling the narrative.
But why would you want dangerous people to have guns?
That's what they say.
No matter how many times you talk about proof, innocent, bad people calling in so women get their gun taken and can't defend themselves...
Doesn't matter. Until we can knock them over the head with SOMETHING, they are controlling the narrative.
I know someone that got a gun to defend herself.
It's ALMOST sunk through to her when I explained the person she was AFRAID OF, only had to call the threat in on her, she'd lose her guns... AND THEN WHAT?
It's ALMOST sunk through to her when I explained the person she was AFRAID OF, only had to call the threat in on her, she'd lose her guns... AND THEN WHAT?
Did she threaten to harm or kill the other person?
Is she mentally unstable? Prescribed medication and not taking it? Would it be obvious that she's a threat to herself or others?
