Political funny pictures thread, part V *** If I don't laugh, I'll cry***

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    printcraft

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    Hey, what's wrong with tyranny, starvation and genocide? Let's do THAT again. YGBSM.

    Wait a minute...:hijack:


    Well, it was not TOTAL tyranny, starvation and genocide.
    I mean you technically "could" get a car, the bread lines were not THAT long and there are plenty of people left running around so it does sound pretty sweet when you look at it that way.
     

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    Make the case that communism "wasn't that bad" with 100 years of history saying otherwise.

    And GO!
    I'm not making a case for communism. In fact, communism has never been tried. I'm talking about socialism. And I agree, it's a bad system. A lot of people reject it, which is why every country that tried it ended up with mass incarcerations. I'm saying that USSR and Warsaw Pact countries were not some sort of post-apocalyptic concentration camps. Seriously, how do you imagine all the economic, technological, and scientific advancement could happen if they were? I'm calling for objectivity. Whether you believe it was or not, doesn't affect the reality.
     

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    A Political Picture


    The American said the U.S. is better than the U.S.S.R. because I have free speech and can say "Reagan is an idiot" any time I want.
    The Russian said, "Big deal. I also can say 'Reagan is an idiot,'"
     
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    printcraft

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    I'm not making a case for communism. In fact, communism has never been tried. I'm talking about socialism. And I agree, it's a bad system. A lot of people reject it, which is why every country that tried it ended up with mass incarcerations. I'm saying that USSR and Warsaw Pact countries were not some sort of post-apocalyptic concentration camps. .....

    So not post-apocalyptic concentration camps just regular old fashioned mass incarcerations. When you put it that way...



    ......Seriously, how do you imagine all the economic, technological, and scientific advancement could happen if they were? I'm calling for objectivity. Whether you believe it was or not, doesn't affect the reality.

    I mean I've got a pretty good idea how it worked... I wouldn't use the term "voluntarily" very much...

    cotton is king
     

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    Make the case that communism "wasn't that bad" with 100 years of history saying otherwise.

    And GO!

    Well, there was a lot more discussion than just that. He cited many things that he thought were misconceptions, and then offered how it was from his perspective. So, if you think he's incorrect about the things he used to show how it wasn't like what we thought, let's hear your rebuttal. Cover the stuff about guns, medicine, employment, etcetera, and show us where he was wrong about those things. I think you guys are getting overly defensive about this. He's not advocating communism. He's just saying what (presumably) his experience was specifically with the USSR, and what people in the US have gotten wrong about it from his perspective.
     

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    Love all these funnies.
    What vaguely bothers me is that people in the US imagine communism as some sort of hellscape resulting from 80 years of uninterrupted Democratic rule. I don't know the intricacies of NK, PRC, Cambodia, etc, but I do know quite a bit about the USSR. Yes, it wasn't a good system, but it wasn't a creepy weird fantasy people post pictures about or depict in movies.

    So, you don't think poisoning your enemies with Polonium or a nerve agent or developing and testing a cruise missile that is powered by a naked, unshielded nuclear reactor are creepy or weird? Good to know

    If Putin offered you a cup of tea, would you drink it?
     

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    BugI02

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    Yes, dekulakization was one of those horrible things early on. That's what you get with collectivization, which is why anyone with a bit of sense and historic awareness can't support that stuff. It contributed to the collapse of the 20s for sure. But you can't compare USSR in 1927 to USSR in 1972, or even 1989. It's like comparing the Southern States during the Reconstruction to the present day South. That's playing historic revisionism.
    As for me not knowing what a party member is... I have no clue what you mean by that.

    How about if we replaced 'party member' with 'apparatchik' - would that help? :@ya:
     

    printcraft

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    The bubonic plague, while bad, only killed 1/3 of the total population of a continent.
    So in essence it opened up more job opportunities and food for others.
    < NOT an epidemiologist.
     
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