Phoenix, AZ has made it mandatory for pet stores to only sell rescue animals

[ArcadiaGP]

Good idea? Pointless government involvement?

Major U.S. City Makes It Mandatory For Pet Stores To Only Sell Rescues

 

[steveh_131]

Yes, more government will certainly fix this situation right up.

 

[KLB]

Yeah, a brilliant move.

Stores sell what people want to buy. I guess now people will just go outside the city limits to get their puppies.

 

[Mr Evilwrench]

More fascism.

 

[BugI02]

I prefer to see rescues found homes through adoption, with careful vetting of the parents-to-be. The poor things have already survived one bad experience by needing to be rescued in the first place, they don't need to be potentially exposed to the same thing. Both of mine are rescues

 

[z96Cobra]

Maybe I'm in the minority, but trying to take in a rescue is a PITA. I looked into it a found out I had to fill out an application. I downloaded the application and couldn't believe how much personal info they require. Then, they have an in home interview... Sorry, but I'm not letting strangers into my home to inspect it & the yard, to determine whether or not I'm going to be a good pet owner.

I decided what dog I wanted and found a breeder. Paid for dog & brought her home. Vet checked the next the morning. She was purebred & registered, but I never bothered with paying/sending $. She's a family member & is very well taken care of.

The rescues are trying to do an honorable thing, but they are also creating a big hassle for prospective pet owners.

 

[Cygnus]

Yeah, a brilliant move.

Stores sell what people want to buy. I guess now people will just go outside the city limits to get their puppies.

Like the Fort Wayne smoking ban?

 

[CindyE]

Maybe I'm in the minority, but trying to take in a rescue is a PITA. I looked into it a found out I had to fill out an application. I downloaded the application and couldn't believe how much personal info they require. Then, they have an in home interview... Sorry, but I'm not letting strangers into my home to inspect it & the yard, to determine whether or not I'm going to be a good pet owner.

I decided what dog I wanted and found a breeder. Paid for dog & brought her home. Vet checked the next the morning. She was purebred & registered, but I never bothered with paying/sending $. She's a family member & is very well taken care of.

The rescues are trying to do an honorable thing, but they are also creating a big hassle for prospective pet owners.

We ran into the same thing. I completely support rescuing, but my husband and I tried to rescue a dog and never got approved. I filled out the 5 page application and consented to the home check. The rescue was over 100 miles away, so that was against us, too. I would have driven to pick her up, but the home check, etc. never happened. I contacted them several times. We ended up buying a pup. On the other side, you can go to a shelter and not have the home check, etc, but sometimes the shelter knows very little about the dog, and if it will be a good fit for you, especially if it is an adult with an unknown background. Sad.

 

[mbills2223]

Not sure where i stand on this

 

[eldirector]

Interesting. Most of the pet stores around here seem to "sell" rescued cats and dogs already. No law needed. I'm sure they also sell some from breeders. Everyone I know that got a "breed" (cat or dog), didn't get it from a retail store, but straight from a breeder or non-profit rescue.

My wife got her first cat from a pet store as a "rescue". All of mine have been literally "found". I cut out the middle man!

Arizona must just have a different pet environment.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Let's see...

1. None of the government's business at any level.

2. Forces buyers to skip quality animals for (economically) junk animals, often paying far in excess of market value for an animal not economically viable for any purpose other than a pet.

3. One would think that if there are enough people to support such a law there should be enough people to absorb the supply voluntarily. *Dave falls off chair laughing*

4. Overall quality of animal in circulation drops as assorted mutts are given preference over quality animals as a result of point 2.

5. Everyone else is forced to live by the idea of right and proper espoused by a vocal minority of busybodies who consider it their right to force you to subsidize their idea of right and proper.

 

[Peter Potamus]

It's none of the government's business and a great example of liberal ideology.

 

[mbills2223]

Let's see...

1. None of the government's business at any level.

2. Forces buyers to skip quality animals for (economically) junk animals, often paying far in excess of market value for an animal not economically viable for any purpose other than a pet.

3. One would think that if there are enough people to support such a law there should be enough people to absorb the supply voluntarily. *Dave falls off chair laughing*

4. Overall quality of animal in circulation drops as assorted mutts are given preference over quality animals as a result of point 2.

5. Everyone else is forced to live by the idea of right and proper espoused by a vocal minority of busybodies who consider it their right to force you to subsidize their idea of right and proper.

I only take issue with 2 and 4. I'd say nature is far better at churning out quality animals than breeders

 

[KLB]

Like the Fort Wayne smoking ban?

They have something beyond the state ban?

 

[IndyDave1776]

I only take issue with 2 and 4. I'd say nature is far better at churning out quality animals than breeders

That depends on your understanding of 'quality' regarding animals. For example, next round I am considering how to breed my favorite male alpaca with the right female to get desired characteristics. Generally, quality of coat and proper physical construction are the primary goals in breeding. This particular male has become my favorite in spite of a relatively weak coat by virtue of being unusually intelligent hence amusing and I would like to have at least one good offspring with this trait. I have taken the long way to get to the point that nature will generally breed a 'better' animal for the purpose of unsupervised survival. Mutts often have a better disposition than purebreds. That said, the economic value is in the purebreds because they were bred as they are for reasons typically based on usefulness, hence economic value. That said, people who buy a particular breed because they like the looks of it have come to be considered the normal purebred buyer rather than people who need a working dog or wish to have a show dog, both of which are economically driven applications. Basically I am seeing this through the lens of needing, say, a Great Pyrenees to watch over the natural-born prey animals in the barnyard and have some dip**** telling me that I should instead take a luck of the draw animal from the shelter, and preferable be required to do so, in spite of the fact that if it is a puppy, I have no real way of knowing what I am getting and if it is not a puppy, it is probably going to be too set in its ways to acclimate to farm animals that it may not already feel inclined to accept.

This leads directly into supply-side socialism. You will not buy the product you need, but rather the product that the suppliers make who need you to buy it to ensure their livelihood. Similarly, you will not buy the animal you need, but rather the one that the all-knowing experts determine needs you.

 

[eldirector]

Went back and looked.... This has no impact on sales by a breeder. Just "pet stores". I have NEVER heard of someone wanting a working dog, or a show dog, shopping at PetsMart.

Is this a fairly ridiculous over-reach by the local courts and legislature? Yes. Does it impact folks wanting a particular breed? No.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Went back and looked.... This has no impact on sales by a breeder. Just "pet stores". I have NEVER heard of someone wanting a working dog, or a show dog, shopping at PetsMart.

Is this a fairly ridiculous over-reach by the local courts and legislature? Yes. Does it impact folks wanting a particular breed? No.

Given the government propensity for playing fast and loose with definition and/or redefining the English language, are you really comfortable hanging your hat on that one? While is it effective only within city limits, I could easily see a breeder being deemed a 'pet store' while wearing his sales hat.

You also have to take into account that there are people who understand that different breeds exist for different purposes but may lack the sophistication or the specific knowledge to either look for or succeed at finding a breeder in the sense we would use the word, leaving them with the local pet store. It should not become incumbent on anyone to have to know how to get around stupid laws which should not exist in the first place.

 

[tatic05]

No reason for the Gov. to be in on this. On the other hand I would rescue a dog before I would buy one from a breeder. I dont consider it a hassle at all. Its a big responsibility to care for a pet and one that shouldn't be taken lightly. I also dont see how a rescue is a 'junk' animal and a breeders animal is some how superior? So if you were adopted or put into foster care then you are a 'junk' human?

 

[IndyDave1776]

No reason for the Gov. to be in on this. On the other hand I would rescue a dog before I would buy one from a breeder. I dont consider it a hassle at all. Its a big responsibility to care for a pet and one that shouldn't be taken lightly. I also dont see how a rescue is a 'junk' animal and a breeders animal is some how superior? So if you were adopted or put into foster care then you are a 'junk' human?

You miss my point. That was a narrowly qualified statement regarding economic value, not absolute value. There is nothing wrong with a rescue animal. Most of them make great pets. Most happy tail-waggers who are delighted to go home with someone who will feed regularly, not keep it in a cage and not abuse it aren't worth a damn for keeping the coyotes away and simultaneously being adaptable to the livestock. This works the same way that the basketball coach probably doesn't have anything personal against the kid who stands five foot five and scales out a 220, but also realizes that he won't have any value on the basketball team.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

So if you were adopted or put into foster care then you are a 'junk' human?

No No No, this is America, where all men are created equal.