Obama explains to workers that "we are NOT overtaxed"

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  • melensdad

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    Our President really needs to stick to the teleprompter because he clearly can't deal with random questions that don't have a scripted answer :n00b:

    Obama's 17-minute, 2,500-word response to woman's claim of being 'over-taxed'
    by Anne E. Kornblut writing for The WASHINGTON POST
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    CHARLOTTE - Even by President Obama's loquacious standards, an answer he gave here on health care Friday was a doozy.

    Toward the end of a question-and-answer session with workers at an advanced battery technology manufacturer, a woman named Doris stood to ask the president whether it was a "wise decision to add more taxes to us with the health care" package.

    "We are over-taxed as it is," Doris said bluntly.

    Obama started out feisty. "Well, let's talk about that, because this is an area where there's been just a whole lot of misinformation, and I'm going to have to work hard over the next several months to clean up a lot of the misapprehensions that people have," the president said.

    He then spent the next 17 minutes and 12 seconds lulling the crowd into a daze. His discursive answer - more than 2,500 words long -- wandered from topic to topic, including commentary on the deficit, pay-as-you-go rules passed by Congress, Congressional Budget Office reports on Medicare waste, COBRA coverage, the Recovery Act and Federal Medical Assistance Percentages (he referred to this last item by its inside-the-Beltway name, "F-Map"). He talked about the notion of eliminating foreign aid (not worth it, he said). He invoked Warren Buffett, earmarks and the payroll tax that funds Medicare (referring to it, in fluent Washington lingo, as "FICA").

    Always fond of lists, Obama ticked off his approach to health care -- twice. "Number one is that we are the only -- we have been, up until last week, the only advanced country that allows 50 million of its citizens to not have any health insurance," he said.

    A few minutes later he got to the next point, which seemed awfully similar to the first. "Number two, you don't know who might end up being in that situation," he said, then carried on explaining further still.

    "Point number three is that the way insurance companies have been operating, even if you've got health insurance you don't always know what you got, because what has been increasingly the practice is that if you're not lucky enough to work for a big company that is a big pool, that essentially is almost a self-insurer, then what's happening is, is you're going out on the marketplace, you may be buying insurance, you think you're covered, but then when you get sick they decide to drop the insurance right when you need it," Obama continued, winding on with the answer.

    Halfway through, an audience member on the riser yawned.

    But Obama wasn't finished. He had a "final point," before starting again with another list -- of three points.

    "What we said is, number one, we'll have the basic principle that everybody gets coverage," he said, before launching into the next two points, for a grand total of seven.

    His wandering approach might not matter if Obama weren't being billed as the chief salesman of the health-care overhaul. Public opinion on the bill remains divided, and Democratic officials are planning to send Obama into the country to persuade wary citizens that it will work for them in the long run.

    It was not evident that he changed any minds at Friday's event. The audience sat politely, but people in the back of the room began to wander off.

    Even Obama seemed to recognize that he had gone on too long. He apologized -- in keeping with the spirit of the moment, not once, but twice. "Boy, that was a long answer. I'm sorry," he said, drawing nervous laughter that sounded somewhat like relief as he wrapped up.

    But, he said: "I hope I answered your question."

     

    Field King

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    Just an observation for Obama, how many of the un-insured choose to be un-insured? I know several un-insured people whom buy cell phone service, new cars on credit, internet service, make up, tanning packages, you get my drift????
     

    SavageEagle

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    Just an observation for Obama, how many of the un-insured choose to be un-insured? I know several un-insured people whom buy cell phone service, new cars on credit, internet service, make up, tanning packages, you get my drift????

    I chose to be uninsured when my wife had the chance to add me to her plan at work cause we couldn't afford it coming out of her check. It allowed us to buy Christmas for the kids and for us to keep the lights on in the house. We didn't go out buying cell phones, new cars or anything like that. I CHOSE to not be insured, mostly because I'm the healthiest one in the house. I didn't see the kidney stone coming, but I've paid off the medical bills thus far for that.

    Regardless, thats off topic.

    obamatard couldn't give a straight honest answer about Health Care if his career depended on it. Oh, wait, he did. Before everyone found out it was Death Care, not Health Care... :rolleyes:
     

    Joe Williams

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    It's good to know that this man, who has somehow managed to become a millionaire while working on behalf of the poor, is so willing to give our money to them instead of his.

    And is willing to tell us in so much detail why we should be happy with that situation. His public speaking ability is simply a breath of fresh air when that teleprompter goes away!
     

    Rizzo

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    King Solomon known for his wisdom told us in Proverbs 10:19 that "When words are many, sin is not absent."

    And again in Ecclesiastes 5:3 Solomon tells us, "As a dream comes when there are many cares, so the speech of a fool when there are many words."
     

    The Meach

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    Just an observation for Obama, how many of the un-insured choose to be un-insured? I know several un-insured people whom buy cell phone service, new cars on credit, internet service, make up, tanning packages, you get my drift????

    I choose to be un-insured. I'm 22 years old and just not that worried about it. I have catastrophic coverage and short term disability at work (which i've gotten down to about 20 bucks a month) in case i get hit by a car or shot in the face. I liked having the few extra bucks a month and was willing to give up being able to run to the doc every time i had a runny nose or a hemorrhoid.

    Now I'm gonna be forced to buy insurance against my will.

    awesome...not
     

    CopperWires

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    So at what point in that incoherent rambling did he address taxes. From what I read, he never even mentioned taxes. I HATE POLITICIANS! They never answer the freaking question.
     

    jblomenberg16

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    So at what point in that incoherent rambling did he address taxes. From what I read, he never even mentioned taxes. I HATE POLITICIANS! They never answer the freaking question.


    It is called the "Confuse and Redirect" strategy. I see it a lot at work too in meetings where someone gets asked a question they don't know the answer too, or don't want to answer.
     

    CopperWires

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    This is probably why they only allow once chance to speak from each person in the audience. That individual cannot call Obama out for not answering. I just don't know why someone else doesn't do it.
     

    indykid

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    By obama-messiah's idea of taxes, as long as you have any money left in your paycheck to take home, you are not overtaxed!
     

    Doug

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    The democrats are smart enough to know that being without insurance is a bad decision.
    The Democrats know you are not smart enough to make your own decisions.

    The Democrats want to make you a ward of the state and make all your decisions for you.
    Welcome to Hope and Change.

    Doug
     

    Mike_Indy

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    I was raised to respect the office of President even if you can't respect the man in the office. I'm finding that VERY difficult to live by these days.
     

    antsi

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    I choose to be un-insured. I'm 22 years old and just not that worried about it. I have catastrophic coverage and short term disability at work (which i've gotten down to about 20 bucks a month) in case i get hit by a car or shot in the face. I liked having the few extra bucks a month and was willing to give up being able to run to the doc every time i had a runny nose or a hemorrhoid.

    Now I'm gonna be forced to buy insurance against my will.

    awesome...not

    You, and people like you, are the real target of this bill.

    Males who are employed, relatively young, and reasonably healthy, are the most desired insurance customers precisely because they don't need health insurance. If they have health insurance, they pay in to the pool without drawing out. For the people running this show, it's like selling flood insurance to people in the middle of the Sahara Desert.

    The Obama and his minions look at you as a big fat wallet that they haven't started sucking health care money out of yet. Don't worry, though: they're about to start.
     
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