Movie 'documentry' Loose Change

[Kaiser]

I have a friend who has been encouraging me to watch the 'documentary' loose change. I have been reluctant to view. He is a Michael Moore Fan and truly believes our government orchestrated 911. He says that is not what it is all about just asked questions and shows some of the alternative evidence. I saw it last night listed on Net Flicks have not given up 2 hours of my life to watch at this point. I thought I would ask here since there are a few likeminded individuals out there if they have seen it. Anybody out there?? Let me know
it is called Loose change

 

[J_Wales]

What evidence do you have that proves our government was not behind it?

Just curious.

 

[Kaiser]

I don't I have not sat down to watch it because of that. I was just fishing to see if anyone had watched it and what they thought of it. I was told that is what the movie is about the evedence.
I guess I am going to have to sit down and watch it for myself. Just did not want to give up two hours of my time to do so if it is purely a left wing nut case manifesto.

What evidence do you have that proves our government was not behind it?

Just curious.

 

[J_Wales]

Well, anything time spent watching Michael Moore is likely a waste of time and life.

You could always start doing your own research. Here are some interesting items...

Could this happen?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiaKPhMMYIY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiaKPhMMYIY[/ame]


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huK0MAb0Xa4&feature=endscreen&NR=1[/ame]

The BBC's 'WTC 7 Collapsed At 4:54 p.m.' Videos



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[Kaiser]

Thanks I will watch. First one reminds me of the accident in Indy in the 80"s By the Way Michael Moore did not make the movie. My freind is a Michael Moore fan. I know how can I be freinds with him. I have gotten him to shoot with us a few times, although he has never admitted to enjoying it, he has a smile when pulling the trigger.

You could always start doing your own research. Here are some interestin
g items...

Could this happen?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiaKPhMMYIY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiaKPhMMYIY[/ame]


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huK0MAb0Xa4&feature=endscreen&NR=1[/ame]

The BBC's 'WTC 7 Collapsed At 4:54 p.m.' Videos



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[J_Wales]

Maybe there is hope for your friend yet!

 

[thebishopp]

I don't I have not sat down to watch it because of that. I was just fishing to see if anyone had watched it and what they thought of it. I was told that is what the movie is about the evedence.
I guess I am going to have to sit down and watch it for myself. Just did not want to give up two hours of my time to do so if it is purely a left wing nut case manifesto.

Anyone who would think our government would do anything "shady" is a left wing nut case. Our government would NEVER EVER EVER be apart of a situation or incident that could be used to further expand the power of itself. Since it's creation our government has done nothing but stand as a beacon, an example of the fine ideals of this and the ideals held in it's creation.

I would also like to go on the record as saying that everything our government does is for our own good so even if they were involved in anything at all that could be considered "shady" it would purely be for the greater good.

 

[Kaiser]

The movie is supposed to be like these. Evidence of thermite explosives on the buildings etc. I will say I have had questions about it for a long time. Why were there not jets sent to intercept? I have a friend that is an American Airlines pilot and he told me if they lose radio contact or radar contact they are intercepted by the military (this was before 911). Why did the 3 buildings collapse in a controlled way? The wreckage and site in PA looked nothing like it should have.

I will give it a watch and let you know.

Well, anything time spent watching Michael Moore is likely a waste of time and life.

You could always start doing your own research. Here are some interesting items...

Could this happen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiaKPhMMYIY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huK0MAb0Xa4&feature=endscreen&NR=1

The BBC's 'WTC 7 Collapsed At 4:54 p.m.' Videos



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[thej27]

Popular Mechanics had an article a few years ago where they scientifically destroyed all of the conspiracy theories.

 

[Haggis]

Instead of watching Loose Change, I recommend watching Change For a Dollar. It is only 10 minutes long and it will leave you with a better feeling at the end.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DXL9vIUbWg[/ame]

 

[ocsdor]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T2_nedORjw&list=FLMcHKFw2DkVIx-oOa9aFCng&index=18&feature=plpp_video[/ame]

 

[rambone]

Loose Change

"Loose Change" is available to watch in full on YouTube.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3MN9382eGY[/ame]

 

[J_Wales]

Instead of watching Loose Change, I recommend watching Change For a Dollar. It is only 10 minutes long and it will leave you with a better feeling at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DXL9vIUbWg

Yep. More change for the good by one individual with about $1 than change for the good from the statist pig fearless leader and his statist henchmen could make for $8,000,000,000.


"There's nothing virtuous about "caring""compassionate""progressives" demonstrating how caring and compassionate and progressive they are by spending money yet to be earned by generations yet to be born."

- Mark Steyn, After America

 

[buckstopshere]

Popular Mechanics had an article a few years ago where they scientifically destroyed all of the conspiracy theories.

IIRC, they didn't touch on Tower 7 but I cold be wrong.

I don't care about what popular mechanics or purdue university studies say. There are just as many qualified individuals who give a dissenting view. The experts don't agree so they're a wash to me.

What happened afterwards to our country tells me that either there was a conspiracy with gov involvement or we are really dumb because Al Qaeda has accomplishing their goal. Kill our economy, kill our freedoms, bring us down from inside out. That's the core of bin ladens fatwa and look at where we are today...I don't think it's a coincidence.

We need the truth about 9/11

 

[Kaiser]

Whatched the film I am not saying I agree with everything they said. However it does raise some very interesting questions. Some of the same questions I asked myself whe n it all happened. It is worth a watch. I don't believe we will ever know what happened that day. I do know as said above we have lost alot of our freedoms at the hand of our own government, and a lot of people have gotten ricjh on governement contracts. I seem to remember my father quoteing Krushev saying he would take over this country with out firing a shot. The comunists may not have takedn over but someone has.

 

[J_Wales]

IIRC, they didn't touch on Tower 7 but I cold be wrong.

I don't care about what popular mechanics or purdue university studies say. There are just as many qualified individuals who give a dissenting view. The experts don't agree so they're a wash to me.

What happened afterwards to our country tells me that either there was a conspiracy with gov involvement or we are really dumb because Al Qaeda has accomplishing their goal. Kill our economy, kill our freedoms, bring us down from inside out. That's the core of bin ladens fatwa and look at where we are today...I don't think it's a coincidence.

We need the truth about 9/11

Yep.

 

[buckstopshere]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T2_nedORjw&list=FLMcHKFw2DkVIx-oOa9aFCng&index=18&feature=plpp_video

Is it me or does that dude in the beginning of this video look like Ed Begley Jr?

 

[dross]

What evidence do you have that proves our government was not behind it?

Just curious.

You do understand this is a silly and a fallacious question, right?

Don't ask someone to prove a negative.

The responsibility to prove an assertion is with the person making the assertion.

If I say the moon's core is composed of cream cheese, it is my job to provide evidence, it's not your job to prove me wrong.

 

[Bunnykid68]

You do understand this is a silly and a fallacious question, right?

Don't ask someone to prove a negative.

The responsibility to prove an assertion is with the person making the assertion.

If I say the moon's core is composed of cream cheese, it is my job to provide evidence, it's not your job to prove me wrong.

I always wondered how they made cream cheese.

 

[J_Wales]

You do understand this is a silly and a fallacious question, right?

Don't ask someone to prove a negative.

The responsibility to prove an assertion is with the person making the assertion.

If I say the moon's core is composed of cream cheese, it is my job to provide evidence, it's not your job to prove me wrong.

Sure... but I submitted it anyhow.

A better question might be:

What evidence do we have that it was an attack involving foreign terrorists other than that provided by the government?

or

What evidence contradicts claims and evidence that the attacks happened in a manner different from the scenario presented by the government?