Military men face moral dilemma on Syrian strike: Follow consciences or orders

[Birds Away]

Me either. That's why I didn't vote for McCain or Romney.

Take a gander.
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...06-6-way-activists-undermine-their-cause.html

 

[hornadylnl]

Take a gander.
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...06-6-way-activists-undermine-their-cause.html

Maybe repubs ought to take a gander as well an find out why they keep losing.

 

[Birds Away]

This reminds me of the .25 thread. Plenty of noise, no penetration.

 

[steveh_131]

Plenty of noise, no penetration.

Is that what your wife said, too?

 

[Birds Away]

You mean my ex-wife? Thanks for the reminder. Stay classy, .

 

[steveh_131]

You mean my ex-wife? Thanks for the reminder. Stay classy, .

Sorry man, sometimes I just can't resist the low-hanging fruit.

 

[Birds Away]

It's okay, I saw you reach for it and had to yank your chain.

 

[jbombelli]

Sorry man, sometimes I just can't resist the low-hanging fruit.

Because it hangs low, like your forehead?

 

[steveh_131]

Because it hangs low, like your forehead?

 

[rambone]

I don't really like these stupid photos. Writing on a piece of paper was unnecessary, I only wore my uniform to garner attention. But the point remains the same. "Service" members, stop supporting your leadership. Say "NO." It isn't hard. When a man offers you money to shoot somebody they tell you is your enemy, it's STILL YOU pulling the trigger, cashing the check, and living with your conscience. Stop blaming politicians. Read something, learn something, believe something, stand up for it. It can all stop at YOU! And DON'T hide your face in fear, the money is NOT worth it. JUST SAY "NO."

-Nicholas Vest

 

[copperhead-1911]

I think this is a good time for all the people who forgot about the birth certificate to insure that disgrace obama can actually hold the office.

Military coup?

 

[jbombelli]

I think this is a good time for all the people who forgot about the birth certificate to insure that disgrace obama can actually hold the office.

Military coup?

Military coup? Is that what you think we should have in this country?

 

[Bunnykid68]

Maybe repubs ought to take a gander as well an find out why they keep losing.

They won't and they will blame the few that don't vote for them

 

[SaintsNSinners]

So let me get this straight...

Military is subservient to the citizens?
Military is comprised of citizen?
Soldiers say no?
Soldiers = citizens?
So Soldiers/Citizens are saying no?

 

[ZombieApocolypse]

So let me get this straight...

Military is subservient to the citizens?
Military is comprised of citizen?
Soldiers say no?
Soldiers = citizens?
So Soldiers/Citizens are saying no?

Why are they only starting now?

 

[copperhead-1911]

Military coup? Is that what you think we should have in this country?

Don't know that we should, but Obama really has a way of pushing buttons and the more patriotic someone is the more they seem to dislike Obama. I could see it possibly happening.

Who knows. We might be better off.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

I think this is a good time for all the people who forgot about the birth certificate to insure that disgrace obama can actually hold the office.

Military coup?

We don't have the type of military culture conducive to overthrowing the government; our officers are not educated nor indoctrinated such that "coups" are a first, second, or third option. Unfortunately, if you want your government brought under control, you are going to have to go about it a different way.

 

[jbombelli]

Don't know that we should, but Obama really has a way of pushing buttons and the more patriotic someone is the more they seem to dislike Obama. I could see it possibly happening.

Who knows. We might be better off.

There is no way we would be better off with a military coup in this country. And I don't see it happening.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

So let me get this straight...

Military is subservient to the citizens?
Military is comprised of citizen?
Soldiers say no?
Soldiers = citizens?
So Soldiers/Citizens are saying no?

Let me attempt to straighten you out:

Military "Leadership" is subservient to civilian leadership.
The military is generally, but not entirely, composed of US Citizens (in the 70s I had a crewchief who was a Guatemalan citizen; but by enlisting for a specified number of years, he could get US citizenship for himself and his immediate family).
Military personnel give up a number of constitutional rights while serving. Among them is the right to express political views while in uniform. While this regulation is loosely enforced, military war protestors who show up in uniform (this includes on the internet) are likely to be disciplined, if identified. Military personnel get to have their own private opinions of politics, but they don't get to express them publicly.