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[actaeon277]

Navy Destroyer CO Fired After Trying to Make His Crew a Plaque with Seized AK-47

The Forrest Sherman was one of two ships celebrated for their 2019 and 2020 arms seizures in the Middle East.

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What a joke.
Navy Captain relieved of command after he had an AK turned into a plaque for the ship.
WTF happened to the Navy?

 

[repeter1977]

Navy Destroyer CO Fired After Trying to Make His Crew a Plaque with Seized AK-47

The Forrest Sherman was one of two ships celebrated for their 2019 and 2020 arms seizures in the Middle East.

www.military.com

What a joke.
Navy Captain relieved of command after he had an AK turned into a plaque for the ship.
WTF happened to the Navy?

While we have always had civilian oversight, now that oversight has literally rarely a clue what the military does or is. Their families have never served either so they are completely clueless.

 

[2A_Tom]

B b b but we are a kinder gentler INGO Military

 

[nonobaddog]

Navy Destroyer CO Fired After Trying to Make His Crew a Plaque with Seized AK-47

The Forrest Sherman was one of two ships celebrated for their 2019 and 2020 arms seizures in the Middle East.

www.military.com

What a joke.
Navy Captain relieved of command after he had an AK turned into a plaque for the ship.
WTF happened to the Navy?

Libtards

 

[smittygj]

Navy Destroyer CO Fired After Trying to Make His Crew a Plaque with Seized AK-47

The Forrest Sherman was one of two ships celebrated for their 2019 and 2020 arms seizures in the Middle East.

www.military.com

What a joke.
Navy Captain relieved of command after he had an AK turned into a plaque for the ship.
WTF happened to the Navy?

I currently serve in this AOR, and I had not, until now, seen this story. My only assumption is that when he went to turn over said confiscated weapons, instead of turning them all over, he kept one, which could be a violation, if he did not report it. I've seen many in this AOR that were mounted and displayed.

 

[actaeon277]

I currently serve in this AOR, and I had not, until now, seen this story. My only assumption is that when he went to turn over said confiscated weapons, instead of turning them all over, he kept one, which could be a violation, if he did not report it. I've seen many in this AOR that were mounted and displayed.

So spank him and move on.
He wasn't committing war crimes, harassing his crew, or such.
No need to remove him from command

 

[Hawkeye]

So spank him and move on.
He wasn't committing war crimes, harassing his crew, or such.
No need to remove him from command

I fear the Navy has moved beyond a "zero-defect/error" mentality to a (????) mentality. Don't know what it would be called - maybe "less than zero"....

 

[nonobaddog]

Sure sounds like BS to me. Maybe he did or said something else and this is their way of canceling him.

 

[actaeon277]

Sure sounds like BS to me. Maybe he did or said something else and this is their way of canceling him.

Well, he coulda pissed off an admiral, and this is just an excuse.

 

[Brad69]

Don’t really understand this one every unit I have served had a ”war room”. That contains relics from conflicts including weapons.
One had a sweet artillery Luger from WW1 with the wooden stock.

 

[2A_Tom]

But, did they still have it when you left?

 

[KellyinAvon]

Don’t really understand this one every unit I have served had a ”war room”. That contains relics from conflicts including weapons.
One had a sweet artillery Luger from WW1 with the wooden stock.

The USAF had a Detachment at Camp Speicher doing convey security. They had a bunch of weapons on the wall, many traded for a candy bar by a kid. The AKs didn't catch my eye. The .455 Webley and the Walther PPK on the other hand...

 

[Brad69]

No 2AD I didn’t take the Luger one unit had brown bess musket‘s from the Mexican war.

 

[Sigblaster]

Oh, what the heck. I've had a few beers, and I'm bored because no one has showed up to drink with me yet, and I figure I've got a half hour before my friends' wives let them off leash. Might as well tell some tales.

Early in my Army career, I had the great fortune to have a squad leader (Staff Sergeant) by the name of SSG Martinez. Big Puerto Rican guy who looked like Bald Bull from the old arcade video game Punch Out. Everybody said that. Google it if you want to get a picture of what he looked like. I was a Specialist (E4) at the time. He pushed me to become a Sergeant when I thought I wasn't ready, but he thought I was. This guy was all about leadership, and practicality. He used to wear pantyhose under his BDUs in the winter. Said it kept him warmer than any long johns ever did. Well, ok, I didn't follow him in that, but he was an excellent mentor. He taught me more about leadership in my 2 years with him than any other NCO I seved with for the other 20 years.

Out on the back 40 of Fort Campbell, this 2nd Lieutenant wanted to take one of the squads from our platoon out for some land nav practice. SSG Martinez gave him 2nd squad. I asked him why he gave the LT 2nd squad, when he knew I was the best navigator in the platoon (probably even the company), and he said that the LT needed to learn a lesson. Ok. Well, of course the LT led the squad out of our AO into the impact area of a live artillery exercise. That got a little exciting, to say the least. The LT and the squad gets trucked back to our AO, and SSG Martinez commences to verbally tearing him several more sphincters than he was born with. The LT told him to at ease and get at the position of attention. SSG Martinez snapped to the position of attention and without missing a word or a beat continued to drill holes, and dismissed the LT when he was done. The SSG dismissed the LT! He actually said, "You're dismissed", and the LT immediately left!

I gave SSG Martinez some space to cool down for about a half hour, then I went and asked him about the confrontation. He explained to me that good NCOs make good officers. Officers like to think they're leaders, but they're not. NCOs are leaders, officers are managers. You lead people, and you manage things. You need to make the officers stick to managing things, so you're free to lead your people. That shaped my career, that one. A really pivotal point in my understanding of my role in the whole structure.

 

[Nazgul]

Well, he coulda pissed off an admiral, and this is just an excuse.

I was detailed as a driver for 3 Admirals to a conference on a base in Virginia once. I had a Military drivers license and the necessary security clearances. Picked them up at the airport and went to load their bags. One of them was a nice pink color. One of the Admirals grabbed it and said " Be really careful, this belongs to my wife and she will kill me if it is scratched!".

Don

 

[actaeon277]

I was detailed as a driver for 3 Admirals to a conference on a base in Virginia once. I had a Military drivers license and the necessary security clearances. Picked them up at the airport and went to load their bags. One of them was a nice pink color. One of the Admirals grabbed it and said " Be really careful, this belongs to my wife and she will kill me if it is scratched!".

Don

Even admirals must deal with the law of "Happy Wife, Happy Life".

 

[KellyinAvon]

I gotta do stuff, but I just remembered one...

 

[fullauto 45]

My art teacher in Junior High was an old WWII vet. He once told everybody, several times during our years there,
"I once killed a Japanese soldier with my butter knife."

 

[KellyinAvon]

If I've told this one before don't stop me, I want to read it again!

April-ish 2006: Young (we were all younger in 06...) USAF SMSgt KellyinAvon is stationed at Langley AFB, Virginia working at HQ Air Combat Command (ACC, a Major Command, the echelon under HQ USAF). I was in the Manpower Programming (as in Plans, Programming, Budget and Execution) office and the 2008 Program Objective Memorandum (POM, budgeting for two years in the future for the next six years and yes that job sucked) was being finalized to get blessed off by the 2-Star down the hall and the 4-Star across the street to send to HQ USAF. ACC's annual budget excluding military pay (we had 100K active duty under ACC) was $30 BILLION.

A lot of my life at ACC was going to meetings. There was supposed to be five in our office, we were down to three since my boss was in Kabul for 6 months and a GS-12 civvie had recently left. "Hey Kelly, we need you to set in on a meeting in the conference room since Charles (other GS-12 civvie) and I have to be at another meeting and Colonel S (his boss) has to leave mid way through it" says the Captain who is running the office. I go to lots of meetings, no big deal.

What they DIDN'T tell me was the meeting was where everything gets finalized for the 2-Star (Director of Plans and Programs, ACC/A5) to bless off for the 4-Star. The only reason Colonel S was there was because he was sitting in for another Colonel and a GS-15 couldn't be there. When I noticed the people who chaired meetings I would attend were in the cheap-seats here, I realized I was sitting in for the ACC Director of Manpower and Personnel (ACC/A1).

The five minutes I sat in the back row until Colonel S left, he didn't say a word. I had every intention to do the same thing. Colonel S leaves, I go sit at the big table, next to the Colonel chairing the meeting.

The meeting is almost done, BIG money stuff getting prioritized (a modification to the B-2 bomber fleet level of BIG money). I've listened carefully to everything and not said one damn word.

Last thing comes up: it involves re-programming operations and maintenance (O&M) funds being used to fund contractors to add civilian positions (which are also funded from O&M money). Keep in mind, we'd been directed to cut an arbitrary number of civilians, but robbing Peter to pay Paul was pretty much what we did.

The Colonel chairing the meeting (in a flightsuit, I'd never seen him before) looks straight at me and says, "Manpower guy, can we do this?" My answer was a resounding "We sure can, sir!"

The next thing I know this civilian in a suit seems to be having a seizure. It's not a medical emergency though, it's a reaction to what I had just said. I then explain that since it's O&M money it's something we do all the time. It's the same as decreasing funding for spare parts for one of our aircraft and using the funding for civilian positions.

I introduced myself to this suit/civvie after the meeting. We had (what I thought) was a good conversation and I went back to the office.

Well the civilian who I gave a seizure turns out to be an SES (General Officer level civilian) who is the Deputy Director of Logistics for ACC (ACC/A4)

The honcho Colonel (not Col S, the other one, the ACC/A1) walks in the office and asks, "What did you saaaayyyyy?" I replied that I was asked about re-programming O&M money to civ pay even though we were also cutting civilian positions at the same time. Nothing says we can't, so we can do it within our existing resources.

The honcho Colonel gets this stunned look on his face and says, "Everybody knows that."

Then as if on queue, Colonel S (from Knoxville, went to UT, has the accent) comes in the office and asks, "What did you do? You stirred up a hornet's nest!!" I explain it the same way I had two minutes prior, Colonel S gets a stunned look on his face and says, "Everybody knows that!"

I can't remember who then asked, "Did you compare civilians to spare parts?" No, I said that programmatically it's all the same pot of money so re-programming the money is fairly easy. Evidently that means SMSgt KellyinAvon said, "CIVILIANS = SPARE PARTS! CIVILIANS SUCK!! DON'T LIKE IT?? BITE MY BDU-WEARIN ARSE!!" Which is REALLY not close to what I said.

Next day Colonel S walks by the office and says, "I'm going to a meeting now to smooth over the feathers you ruffled yesterday!" I said something to the extent of, "I answered one question and gave an SES a seizure. I'm gonna brag about this!"

 

[Alamo]

My art teacher in Junior High was an old WWII vet. He once told everybody, several times during our years there,
"I once killed a Japanese soldier with my butter knife."

Speaking of teachers, my senior year English teacher at Brown County High School in 1977-78 was a retired US Army armor officer. He had served in the Korean War. Patience0830 will remember him.

He was very tall, moved very deliberately (at my current age I suspect he had significant arthritis), had a stern facial expression with fierce bushy eyebrows. He spoke very deliberately and concisely as well, with a deep voice, befitting an English teacher and astern officer. Dress codes were relaxing some in those days so many of the male teachers war open collar dress shirts or polo shirts, but he always wore a jacket and tie. Everybody knew that he had been a tanker, and even his name was serious: Lloyd K DeWar. I mean he had “war” in his name. He look like someone you did not want to mess with.

One big clue that he was not quite as serious as he appeared was that in the winter time he wore these bright red plaid flannel pants with his jacket and tie. Given that his legs were about 4 feet long you could really see those britches from the far end of the school. Given how for us he looked otherwise, it made him appear eccentric instead of clownish, at least in my opinion.

Once you made it into his class as his student though, you quickly found out that he was really a pussycat regarding his students. He enjoyed teaching English and composition, and telling stories. Especially war stories.

If the English lesson was getting a little long and draggy, it was possible to direct him onto a more interesting path by asking a question that somehow worded in some reference to military strategy or conflict. That would almost invariably elicit some story from his military days, so we could relax and stop taking notes.

One day somebody made a reference along the lines of “it’s like a nuke you don’t have to be real accurate you just have to be close.” That immediately got a stern “THAT is not true” followed by a 30 minute lecture on the effects of a nuclear weapon including the blast zone, Height of detonation, the effects of the pressure wave, types of radiation, fall out and wind, etc. I don’t think that was in the English curriculum.

He also told us how one time he had to abandon a tank during the Korean because they accidentally drove over a hand dug well in a village they were passing through, and the entire tank fell in. He said there was nothing wrong with the tank but they had no way to get it out so as far as he knew it was still sitting in the bottom of the well in Korea.

we had some teachers who were knotheads but Mr. DeWar made a part of my high school career interesting and taught me some stuff too.

RIP Mr. DeWar