Man arrested in 'Call of Duty' 'swatting' hoax that led to fatal police shooting

[Hawkeye]

What? Does anyone speak in English anymore, is everything now in code?

George's mustache is red. The chair is against the door. Grandmother does not speak Serbian.

 

[HoughMade]

Maybe I'm late to the game. Has there been any reporting of what actually led the officer to fire his weapon?

 

[indiucky]

Now.....I am no twit. I have huge balls. That will be the end of that exchange please.

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The exchange is not quite over sir...Not until we hear this.....

 

[hog slayer]

I might even say bad actions get the lions share of the coverage giving the general public an excuse (however poor it may be) to further exacerbate the problem by believing the police are out to do harm, in general, rather than good. This false concept permeates society and we see folks who should have a higher respect for the risks associated with such a job as police (i.e. a Marine) disrespectful of the service they provide. It frustrates me no end to have a Marine, of all professions, criticizing police in such a way. We just left many years of war in which a large part of that was spent policing, instead of indiscriminately killing. Numerous Americans were killed due to the political restraints imposed on them. We all griped about it without ever realizing a solution. We just accepted that someone had to get shot before we could fight back, and even then it wasn't always authorized. Put a blue uniform on and suddenly this nation is simultaneously too demanding on you and embittered towards you and the authority you represent. I've been there and it's not fun, but I wore tan digital cammies, what do I know?

edit: I was too fast on this reply and didn't include the quote. Nonetheless, I think it's obvious I have sincere disdain for general disrespect towards the police. Especially by my fellow Marines.

 

[abeguzmanmarine]

I might even say bad actions get the lions share of the coverage giving the general public an excuse (however poor it may be) to further exacerbate the problem by believing the police are out to do harm, in general, rather than good. This false concept permeates society and we see folks who should have a higher respect for the risks associated with such a job as police (i.e. a Marine) disrespectful of the service they provide. It frustrates me no end to have a Marine, of all professions, criticizing police in such a way. We just left many years of war in which a large part of that was spent policing, instead of indiscriminately killing. Numerous Americans were killed due to the political restraints imposed on them. We all griped about it without ever realizing a solution. We just accepted that someone had to get shot before we could fight back, and even then it wasn't always authorized. Put a blue uniform on and suddenly this nation is simultaneously too demanding on you and embittered towards you and the authority you represent. I've been there and it's not fun, but I wore tan digital cammies, what do I know?

edit: I was too fast on this reply and didn't include the quote. Nonetheless, I think it's obvious I have sincere disdain for general disrespect towards the police. Especially by my fellow Marines.

maybe we have a sincere disdain for the leo's who disrespect the citizens. especially when they say they are sworn to protect them.

 

[HoughMade]

Maybe I'm late to the game. Has there been any reporting of what actually led the officer to fire his weapon?

Anyone?

 

[Woobie]

Anyone?

One claim I read was that he reached for his waist band (hence some of the discussion in this thread of that seemingly standardized justification). There may be some grainy footage of the guy making moves that could be interpreted as aggressive. I haven't heard anything concrete yet. It's probably a "good" shoot, as ironic as that term is in an unfortunate situation such as this.

 

[Kutnupe14]

One claim I read was that he reached for his waist band (hence some of the discussion in this thread of that seemingly standardized justification). There may be some grainy footage of the guy making moves that could be interpreted as aggressive. I haven't heard anything concrete yet. It's probably a "good" shoot, as ironic as that term is in an unfortunate situation such as this.

In the technical sense, it probably is. The thing I keep coming back to, is the perception the victim had of the situation. Here on INGO we have a number members who have stated that if they haven't done anything wrong, and encounter LE, they aren't going to be "helpful." The victim in this case might have been of a similar mindset. It's scary to think that while you may KNOW that you are completely law-abiding, you still might end up at the wrong end of a gun based on another's perception of the situation.

 

[Woobie]

In the technical sense, it probably is. The thing I keep coming back to, is the perception the victim had of the situation. Here on INGO we have a number members who have stated that if they haven't done anything wrong, and encounter LE, they aren't going to be "helpful." The victim in this case might have been of a similar mindset. It's scary to think that while you may KNOW that you are completely law-abiding, you still might end up at the wrong end of a gun based on another's perception of the situation.

Very true. But I can't see a way around that. Maybe somebody smarter than me (that's a whole lot of people) can figure out an answer. On the one hand, I don't want the police to have a harder job than they already do. But I don't want to remove any protections from citizens. There are a lot of ways to kill people these days. Unfortunately, using cops seems to be one of them, if not one of the most perverse. As often as swatting happens, it is a testament to the discipline of most LEO's that they aren't killing more people under these circumstances.

 

[OurDee]

In place of "Good Shoot" we could say "Legal Shoot". I would appreciate a link to the "Grainy" video.
Location:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/1...6521e1b473cf49!8m2!3d37.6730736!4d-97.3523827

911 recording and Video of shooting are at this link: Police release ?swatting? call, video of man shot to death | The Wichita Eagle

 

[KellyinAvon]

One thing that hadn't been mentioned concerning Wichita: that is not some sleepy Midwestern grain mill town. There were 60 gangs active in Wichita when I was stationed at McConnell AFB. That was over 20 years ago.

 

[JettaKnight]

One thing that hadn't been mentioned concerning Wichita: that is not some sleepy Midwestern grain mill town. There were 60 gangs active in Wichita when I was stationed at McConnell AFB. That was over 20 years ago.

But I thought Wichita was far from the opera for evermore and with straw to work while you sweat out of every pore.

 

[MCgrease08]

This definitely wasn't the suspect,s first rodeo. He also threatened to beat and kill his grandmother if she ratted him out for making a false bomb threat to a TV News station.

https://apnews.com/576eb648986b4194...utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=APCentralRegion

It comes as no surprise that he also happened to live with his Grandmother. The same one he threatened to murder.

Barriss earlier pleaded no contest in a separate case on May 10, 2016, to one felony count each of false report of bomb to agency or business and malicious informing of false bomb in California. He was sentenced to two years and eight months in jail, according to the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s office.

The Wichita Eagle reports that his 62-year-old grandmother wrote in a domestic violence case seeking a restraining order in 2015 from a California court that Barris had made “constant threats to beat my face bloody.”

He also allegedly made death threats against the woman, along with threats to destroy her home and dogs. He was ordered to move out of the house they shared and stay away from her, her home, her dogs, workplace and vehicle, according to the document. The order was later dismissed when he and his grandmother missed a court hearing.

The LA Times reported that Barriss threatened his grandmother to prevent her from reporting he had called in false bomb threats.

 

[KellyinAvon]

This definitely wasn't the suspect,s first rodeo. He also threatened to beat and kill his grandmother if she ratted him out for making a false bomb threat to a TV News station.

https://apnews.com/576eb648986b4194...utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=APCentralRegion

It comes as no surprise that he also happened to live with his Grandmother. The same one he threatened to murder.

Sounds like Grandma didn't play the "code of the hood" thing.

 

[churchmouse]

This definitely wasn't the suspect,s first rodeo. He also threatened to beat and kill his grandmother if she ratted him out for making a false bomb threat to a TV News station.

https://apnews.com/576eb648986b4194...utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=APCentralRegion

It comes as no surprise that he also happened to live with his Grandmother. The same one he threatened to murder.

Well that explains a lot.

 

[MCgrease08]

Sounds like Grandma didn't play the "code of the hood" thing.

Snitches get swatted.

 

[OurDee]

I get the impression that grandparents are the key to a man's redemption.

 

[HoughMade]

I bet his father and grandfather aren't happy about this.

 

[hog slayer]

maybe we have a sincere disdain for the leo's who disrespect the citizens. especially when they say they are sworn to protect them.

Agreed. What's first, then, upon a new shooting? Condemnation or innocence until proven otherwise? Do we allow the legal System to execute justice and determine a verdict? Or do we come to our Own conclusions from the all trustworthy media?

 

[churchmouse]

Agreed. What's first, then, upon a new shooting? Condemnation or innocence until proven otherwise? Do we allow the legal System to execute justice and determine a verdict? Or do we come to our Own conclusions from the all trustworthy media?

Question......who do you trust in the media.