Let's hear it for citizen initiatives!

[Twangbanger]

Sounds like (some) Washington residents are tired of police not being able to pursue criminals:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...&cvid=03b9822480004ab4b02ea0e6b64e1996&ei=316

 

[Denny347]

Waiting for Indy residents to get tired of officers watching crime happen and powerless to stop it.

 

[drillsgt]

Waiting for Indy residents to get tired of officers watching crime happen and powerless to stop it.

Why would they be powerless to stop it?

 

[Denny347]

Why would they be powerless to stop it?

Well, SOME crimes. You see someone steal your car. You calk 911. Officer pulls up as they are leaving with your car. We'll take a report but we are not allowed to chase them AT ALL if its only a stolen vehicle. Just smile and wave, Same with traffic violations. Drive however you want. If I try to pull you over, you don't stop, we'll shut it down and go the other way. No pursuits for traffic violations. No consequences AT ALL. So guess what, officers stopped caring about stolen vehicles and driving behavior. Street takeovers? Let State handle them as there is not much we can do about them.

 

[Twangbanger]

Why would they be powerless to stop it?

Law Enforcement requires police to be allowed to ESCALATE when they don't get compliance.

If you require police to de-escalate, you're basically outlawed law-enforcement.

 

[JettaKnight]

Well, SOME crimes. You see someone steal your car. You calk 911. Officer pulls up as they are leaving with your car. We'll take a report but we are not allowed to chase them AT ALL if its only a stolen vehicle. Just smile and wave, Same with traffic violations. Drive however you want. If I try to pull you over, you don't stop, we'll shut it down and go the other way. No pursuits for traffic violations. No consequences AT ALL. So guess what, officers stopped caring about stolen vehicles and driving behavior. Street takeovers? Let State handle them as there is not much we can do about them.

SMH. That has to hurt morale.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

SMH. That has to hurt morale.

Lol, no way! And you have to have morale in order for it to be hurt.

 

[Denny347]

SMH. That has to hurt morale.

Here's another one. You get your car stolen. You find it driving and start chasing it through the City, trying to catch the thieves. Call 911, and we respond. We WILL NOT get involved in you chasing the suspects. We can't. We will tell you to pull over and we'll take the report. YOU can chase your stolen car, but we will not help you get it back.

 

[rbhargan]

Someone once said, the purpose of the Police is not to protect the citizenry from criminals, but to protect criminals from vigilantes. Seems more apt today than ever.

 

[Tombs]

Here's another one. You get your car stolen. You find it driving and start chasing it through the City, trying to catch the thieves. Call 911, and we respond. We WILL NOT get involved in you chasing the suspects. We can't. We will tell you to pull over and we'll take the report. YOU can chase your stolen car, but we will not help you get it back.

Well I mean that works as long you won't help the suspect when they meet the consequences of their actions.

 

[Cynical]

Well, SOME crimes. You see someone steal your car. You calk 911. Officer pulls up as they are leaving with your car. We'll take a report but we are not allowed to chase them AT ALL if its only a stolen vehicle. Just smile and wave, Same with traffic violations. Drive however you want. If I try to pull you over, you don't stop, we'll shut it down and go the other way. No pursuits for traffic violations. No consequences AT ALL. So guess what, officers stopped caring about stolen vehicles and driving behavior. Street takeovers? Let State handle them as there is not much we can do about them.

I’m not saying you’re lying, but seriously is that protocol! It’s hard to wrap my head around it. Do you guys get to decide which laws need to be enforced or is it a directive. Just so we’re clear, if my car is being stolen and I shoot the perp I go to jail, but if my I report my car being stolen you can’t respond!! Wtf,I just bought some powder today from an INGO guy in a small town and he was LEO. We probably had 30 min convo after the transaction and literally covered a lot of bases and that wasn’t one of them. Is that in Indy or other large metro areas or just SOP for LEO for the state?

 

[firecadet613]

I’m not saying you’re lying, but seriously is that protocol! It’s hard to wrap my head around it. Do you guys get to decide which laws need to be enforced or is it a directive. Just so we’re clear, if my car is being stolen and I shoot the perp I go to jail, but if my I report my car being stolen you can’t respond!! Wtf,I just bought some powder today from an INGO guy in a small town and he was LEO. We probably had 30 min convo after the transaction and literally covered a lot of bases and that wasn’t one of them. Is that in Indy or other large metro areas or just SOP for LEO for the state?

IMPD.

 

[actaeon277]

Someone once said, the purpose of the Police is not to protect the citizenry from criminals, but to protect criminals from vigilantes. Seems more apt today than ever.

It also protects SOCIETY from vigilantes.
Mobs can often get the wrong person.

 

[Twangbanger]

I’m not saying you’re lying, but seriously is that protocol! It’s hard to wrap my head around it. Do you guys get to decide which laws need to be enforced or is it a directive. Just so we’re clear, if my car is being stolen and I shoot the perp I go to jail, but if my I report my car being stolen you can’t respond!! Wtf,I just bought some powder today from an INGO guy in a small town and he was LEO. We probably had 30 min convo after the transaction and literally covered a lot of bases and that wasn’t one of them. Is that in Indy or other large metro areas or just SOP for LEO for the state?

Violent vs. non-violent.

Violent crime = police can act like police.

Non-violent? Go suck an egg. Them's the rules.

 

[tsm]

It also protects SOCIETY from vigilantes.
Mobs can often get the wrong person.

Pretty sure that’s no longer an accurate description of LE performance or we wouldn’t have seen Antifa riots or the current shoplifting mobs.

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

Winning!

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

I’m not saying you’re lying, but seriously is that protocol! It’s hard to wrap my head around it. Do you guys get to decide which laws need to be enforced or is it a directive. Just so we’re clear, if my car is being stolen and I shoot the perp I go to jail, but if my I report my car being stolen you can’t respond!! Wtf,I just bought some powder today from an INGO guy in a small town and he was LEO. We probably had 30 min convo after the transaction and literally covered a lot of bases and that wasn’t one of them. Is that in Indy or other large metro areas or just SOP for LEO for the state?

IMPD will respond to every call for service (with a few exceptions), but what Denny said is that we can't chase your stolen car.

 

[KG1]

IMPD will respond to every call for service (with a few exceptions), but what Denny said is that we can't chase your stolen car.

And you can't chase me chasing my stolen car.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

And you can't chase me chasing my stolen car.

Actually, we can chase you if you are driving recklessly. So make sure you drive not-recklessly.

 

[loudgroove]

I'm starting to understand the name "clown world". Glad I moved back to my small town where chances someone will know who you are when you do wrong.