Larry Vickers back at Lebanon

[brchixwing]

Its like those Brits coming over here teaching us how to shoot!!

How would they even know how to build an optic, they're not even allowed to own guns over there?!?

 

[rotag84]

Whoa whoa whoa. It's gonna take more than a few minutes to do a background check isn't it? I mean, you're not really going to trust an Asian shooting a commie gun, are you? I'd be pretty careful.

I figure any guy who shoots a commie POS can't be all that bad.

 

[MCgrease08]

Its like those Brits coming over here teaching us how to shoot!!

I didn't want to interrupt LAV's rant to tell him that most of what I knew coming into the class about running a carbine was taught to me by a Brit.

 

[brchixwing]

I think 7-8 of us received instruction from the same Brit lol

I didn't want to interrupt LAV's rant to tell him that most of what I knew coming into the class about running a carbine was taught to me by a Brit.

 

[cedartop]

How was the war story to training ratio?

 

[ditcherman]

How was the war story to training ratio?

I don’t think I heard war stories, more current event rants.

I’d love to hear how the weekend group went. I would think it would have been very fulfilling, with it being a 2 day.

 

[rotag84]

How was the war story to training ratio?

I would have loved to hear some war stories but I know better than to ask a vet who I don't know personally to tell them.

 

[rotag84]

Larry did make an interesting observation. That the worlds most popular pistol, (Glock) is stupidly simple but the worlds most popular defensive rifle (AR platform) requires a more sophisticated user to keep it running effectively. I though it a great point. You would think the Glock would be paired with the AK as far as the need to clean and know how to manipulate controls.

 

[MinuteManMike]

NO ONE is talking about the pistol class? How weird.

 

[brchixwing]

My favorite takeaway from that rant was him discussing the charging handle is the weakness of the AR (being detached from the carrier). AR's failures always take time to assess while AK's you 99% of the time just strip the mag and rack the bolt.

Larry did make an interesting observation. That the worlds most popular pistol, (Glock) is stupidly simple but the worlds most popular defensive rifle (AR platform) requires a more sophisticated user to keep it running effectively. I though it a great point. You would think the Glock would be paired with the AK as far as the need to clean and know how to manipulate controls.

 

[brchixwing]

Ratio of Joe Biden jokes to war stories was probably est. 50:1; he referenced Delta a number of times for training practices but I only remember one story (second hand) about a Gentleman that got paralyzed by an RPD while retaining a rifle mag

I don’t think I heard war stories, more current event rants.

I’d love to hear how the weekend group went. I would think it would have been very fulfilling, with it being a 2 day.

 

[brchixwing]

Some other highlights from break time, got a few Ken Hackathorn impersonations (i.e. his reluctance to use a red dot). He thinks HK is going to sh*t, squandering the proceeds of their HK416 defense contracts.

Sig 320 is the #2 dominant platform after Glock but he thinks a Gen 5 Glock 19 100% beats a Sig 320 all day long. Adoption of the Sig 320 only came from selling at cost to the DOD.

Larry did call out Bill Wilson for overpricing the WC Sig 320 but highlights it is by far the best Sig 320 (beating the Legion). The WC grip module being the best value for an upgrade.

How was the war story to training ratio?

 

[MinuteManMike]

Ratio of Joe Biden jokes to war stories was probably est. 50:1; he referenced Delta a number of times for training practices but I only remember one story (second hand) about a Gentleman that got paralyzed by an RPD while retaining a rifle mag

That blows my mind. What a stupid way to train people to get killed.

 

[diveski11]

@rotag84 hit me up if you want to meet up some time and mess around with AK's, can work with you on mechanics / talk you through how I have my AK's setup (I was the Asian to your left)

@308jake we need to convert more AR shooters to AK shooters while AR ammo is literally double the price (60 cents vs 30 cents)

That conversation was happening at our house recently....

 

[craigkim]

I wish I had gone to this class. It seems like attendance was good. The last carbine class I took there were a whopping 3 of us. There is something to be said for learning by experiencing somewhat larger classes which gives you a broader view of equipment, techniques, solutions, etc, plus you meet more people.

 

[MCgrease08]

 

[rotag84]

Thanks for posting that pic!!!

 

[308jake]

Thanks for posting that pic!!!

AK boys gotta stay together. A few upgrades are in the works for the Arsenal. Hope to see ya on the range again comrade

 

[Brad69]

Great group pic !
Some bad MF’s in the mix!

 

[308jake]

Great group pic !
Some bad MF’s in the mix!

Still salty we didn’t get to show off the undies. Affix bayonets...