K9 patrols in malls?

[firecadet613]

Thanks for the post, and this is unfortunate. Basically what this means is, the kid from Columbus should have left his gun in the car, and Greenwood mall should have relied on "quality control sampling" from a dood with a dogg to stop that shooting.

Just wait until the cost of electronic gun detection systems comes down to less than what it costs to train and pay canines and their handlers. Concealed Carry America is going to get a Red Pill.

Easy, don't patronize their establishments.

I can't recall the last time I've been to a mall, even though that bourbon chicken at the food court is tempting.

No gun signs don't carry the force of law, so as long as it's not a prohibited place, carry on!

 

[KellyinAvon]

Before Christmas we were at Castleton Mall… I made a lap through bed Bath and beyond, and the dog kept going.

 

[Brandon]

Before Christmas we were at Castleton Mall… I made a lap through bed Bath and beyond, and the dog kept going.

We were about 25 feet away from a dog durring a crowded time... as far as I know the dog never alerted.

 

[Twangbanger]

IDK, I almost wish I'd been carrying to see how they'd have reacted. They were both pretty chill.

So you said "No," and they just said "Cool" and partied on? Or did you get the full "Muzzle in Crotch" shakedown?

 

[Cameramonkey]

Easy, don't patronize their establishments.

I can't recall the last time I've been to a mall, even though that bourbon chicken at the food court is tempting.

No gun signs don't carry the force of law, so as long as it's not a prohibited place, carry on!

Troof! I cant find a recipe that is as good as how they do it.

 

[TheGrumpyGuy]

So, like the cartels using coffee grounds to mask the odor of cocaine, would rubbing your pants with weed mask the odor of gunpowder? Asking for a friend

 

[JTScribe]

So you said "No," and they just said "Cool" and partied on?

Pretty much, yeah.

 

[BigMoose]

So, carry some doggie treats with you into the mall in the pocket near where you conceal.

When the dog alerts, show the treats.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

So, carry some doggie treats with you into the mall in the pocket near where you conceal.

When the dog alerts, show the treats.

Not how it works.

 

[BigMoose]

Not how it works.

Maybe not on trained cops, but on these mall cop want to be?

 

[KellyinAvon]

Not how it works.

Is taking a lap thru Bed, Bath and Beyond a viable plan?

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Maybe not on trained cops, but on these mall cop want to be?

Now how the dog works.

An 'alert' isn't simply a sign of interest. It's a specific behavior and it's specific to the thing that the dog is trained to alert for. Think of how useless a bomb dog would be that did the same thing for a bomb as it did for a box of chicken wings. S&R would be impossible if the dog was sidetracked by food in the rubble, etc.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Is taking a lap thru Bed, Bath and Beyond a viable plan?

Are you asking if avoiding the dog is a viable plan? I'm unclear on the question.

 

[BigRed]

Castleton has been doing this for a while as it was on the news shortly after the greenwood shooting.

Greenwood as far as I know is new to the program as we saw a dog last week for the first time.

As if I needed yet another reason to not go to a ******* mall.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Are you asking if avoiding the dog is a viable plan? I'm unclear on the question.

Throwing the dog off my trail.

 

[Brandon]

We saw one dog, in the middle hub at greenwood.

Guess if you see them coming your way you can go shopping in whatever store you are near.

 

[BigRed]

I still believe the best deterrent is following the law and prosecuting to the fullest, no deals on bail or sentence for those who break any gun laws.

You must be a white supremacist.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Throwing the dog off my trail.

That's sort of like asking how big is a boat. Without more information, it's an impossible question to answer with any real hope at accuracy. Trained handlers may be able to give you a general sense of range of an open air sniff in an enclosed crowded environment for a given breed, but that's beyond my experience. In general terms: it depends on if the dog is actively searching, what the capability of that particular dog is, air movement, etc.

 

[KellyinAvon]

That's sort of like asking how big is a boat. Without more information, it's an impossible question to answer with any real hope at accuracy. Trained handlers may be able to give you a general sense of range of an open air sniff in an enclosed crowded environment for a given breed, but that's beyond my experience. In general terms: it depends on if the dog is actively searching, what the capability of that particular dog is, air movement, etc.

So as with most things in life, "it depends." I don't go to malls very often. When I saw the K-9 coming up the hall I stepped into a store that had all kinds of scents. The dog went by.

One other time (Greenwood Park Mall) I walked into an open area and the K-9 (around the corner) looked right at me. Fortunately the handler was BSing with some people. I cut through a crowd and left without incident.

I guess I'll avoid malls.

 

[Ziggidy]

You must be a white supremacist.

I never worked for the FBI….