I hear tell that hispanics are lining up for their carry permits after the El Paso Great Wal shoot'em up. Maybe they'll look at the gun grabbers and think about voting against them.
You left out the stoners voting for Libertarians.
Yeah. You left out the chamber-o-commerce Republicans. Authoritarian. Fudd. Pro corporatists. Globalist.I have long said that if instead of voting for candidates we took a test on our views and our answers were translated into votes, about 25% each would be Dem and Rep, while the rest would be libertarian. You may not have noticed but there has been a profound shift in politics even though it is not widely discussed AND will take a few years to filter through the congress.
So just who are the voters of the political parties now in the age of Trump?
Republicans
pro-gun
pro-life
small business
financial
real estate
religious
independent minded
rural
Democrats
big business
international business
all education
major media
Hollywood
dependent minded
pro-abortion
urban
The big flip is big business and international business as many of them are so big they no longer feel the need for the protections of the US and our constitutional freedoms. Also there are many congressional representatives retiring, I believe it is because the voters are shifting. So called blue dog Democrats are now solidly Republican and wealthy suburbs are flipping Dem.
Any I have wrong?
Any to add?
And then we have exactly what the framers were trying to prevent with our constitutional republic a democracy, which is two wolves and one sheep voting on what to eat for lunch...
Yeah. You left out the chamber-o-commerce Republicans. Authoritarian. Fudd. Pro corporatists. Globalist.
Speaking of authoritarian, you could throw that up for the left as well. Same with Globalist. Plus the Billary wing of the Democratic Party is pro-corporatist too. I guess chalk them both up for all three.
To the proportion that our government is democratic to begin with I'd wonder if voting directly on issues would be better than voting on representatives.
To the proportion that our government is democratic to begin with I'd wonder if voting directly on issues would be better than voting on representatives.
If you still have romantic notions about pure democracy you need to review the sheep and wolves story.
The framers actually built the system to not do something by creating circuit breakers all throughput. True democracy would have already had a vote banning all guns 50.02% to 49.08%...
Hell no. Our system was specifically designed as a democratic republic to prevent legislation passed by popular vote.
It's impossible to protect the rights of the individual when the collective is so eager to vote those rights away based on popular opinion in the moment. How fast do you think we'd lose our gun rights if they were put to a popular vote the day after a mass shooting?
Direct voting on legislation is the antithesis of what our nation was founded on.
Clearly we're talking past one another. Our government is in part democratic, I'm questioning if that part could be put up to a vote instead of using representatives.
None of that says we scrap the republic part of the system or abolish the 2a.
It does suggest scrapping the Republic part of the system, seeing as that's the part that requires elected representation.
No.To the proportion that our government is democratic to begin with I'd wonder if voting directly on issues would be better than voting on representatives.
Is that a question or a statement? Kinda missing some punctuation so I’m not sure.
Any solution to the problem of wanting to keep guns but not agreeing with anything else Republicans do?
So your contention is that our level headed representatives are the only thing protecting our gun rights? I'm not advocating we abolish the bill of rights or leave everything up to the 51%
I honestly dont even have a proposal, I'm Just thinking out loud for a solution for the problem pointed out above. That you might disagree with your representative on 99% of the issues but they will vote against an AWB so you have to vote for them.