Israel vs Russia, Iran and Syria.....

[DadSmith]

Sounds like things are happening, or about to happen.

 

[actaeon277]

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How about... you launched 200 drones against us... we launch 200 drones against you (and 'us' means 'Israel')

 

[bgcatty]

One of these days Iran is going to do some serious damage to Israel. Israel may consider it a real existential threat and release hell in the form of a tactical nuke and wipe Tehran off the map.
Existential threat to the Jewish nation could warrant such a response.
Pray it does not happen.

 

[actaeon277]

One of these days Iran is going to do some serious damage to Israel. Israel may consider it a real existential threat and release hell in the form of a tactical nuke and wipe Tehran off the map.
Existential threat to the Jewish nation could warrant such a response.
Pray it does not happen.

While it's possible, I don't see it happening.
Only if Israel were being wiped off the face of the planet.

Cause even if they took 'serious' damage, using a nuke (even tactical) would result in serious implications on the world stage.

 

[smokingman]

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"Iran has completed the construction of a major onshore oil pipeline, the Goureh-Jask pipeline, which will allow the country to bypass the Hormuz Strait for its oil exports. The 2-billion-U.S.-dollar project will allow the crude to travel some 1,000 km from Iran's pumping facilities in Goureh located on the southwestern shores to the Oman Sea port of Jask on the southeastern shore of the country."

Iran completes construction of oil pipeline to bypass Hormuz Strait for oil exports - Xinhua | English.news.cn

This admin is making number 3 easier, not harder.

 

[Tombs]

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If Iran is such a laughable threat why are we wasting money on all these measures to counter them, and potentially risking a significant war?

 

[phylodog]

I don't know or claim validity of the source

 

[BugI02]

Airplanes only have a few seconds of ammo.

The f-16 has 511 rounds, and fires at 6k per minute

That's 5.5 seconds.


How much does it cost when missiles/drones hit.


What we need, is a missile/drone defense platform that can launch smaller (less ranged) missiles.. purpose built.

That could extend the amount of missiles engaged, and range, from a city or ship

I think you would find that most of the expense in the missile is bound up in the seeker electronics and flight control system. Making it smaller because it uses less solid rocket propellant will not decrease the cost as much as you think. It still has to home on the target at multi-mach speed while maneuvering to intercept, and if it also has a smaller warhead would need a more precise hit

 

[Hkindiana]

Why did the US Air Force waste expensive missiles to shoot down a friggin chinese ballon? Half a second of machine gun fire would have done the job just as easily

 

[BugI02]

Why did the US Air Force waste expensive missiles to shoot down a friggin chinese ballon? Half a second of machine gun fire would have done the job just as easily

The attack aircraft were operating at the extremes of their performance envelope and wouldn't have had sufficient maneuverability to go to guns. If balloons were to become a regular problem, might need a gun pod option on a U2 or WB-57

 

[actaeon277]

Why did the US Air Force waste expensive missiles to shoot down a friggin chinese ballon? Half a second of machine gun fire would have done the job just as easily

Because planes only go so high

 

[actaeon277]

I think you would find that most of the expense in the missile is bound up in the seeker electronics and flight control system. Making it smaller because it uses less solid rocket propellant will not decrease the cost as much as you think. It still has to home on the target at multi-mach speed while maneuvering to intercept, and if it also has a smaller warhead would need a more precise hit

Yes.

But, you can then make the missile smaller.
Which then changes some of the design dynamics.
less material, doesn't have to be designed as strong because of it being smaller.
Then you can fit more on the launching platform. And if the launching platform is airborne, it can be pushed out further to protect ... whatever it's protecting.
Also, some of the reason for seeker expense, is because of the power, and sensitivity, due to the range. Bring the range in closer, and the seekers could be a bit cheaper.

Shooting down, is expensive.

So is NOT shooting down.


Something needs to be done to take out swarms.
Right now, you try to overload the defense system, run them out of defensive missiles.
But imagine maybe remote piloted vehicles protecting a ship.. or fleet. You could send them out to at least start thinning the herd.

 

[Brad69]

I got it Air defense drones!

Set em up with small rocket pods and guns even better Lasers.

I am gonna patent that idea.

 

[DadSmith]

 

[DadSmith]

Anyone want to become a million? It will cost you $2

 

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[Ark]

That doesn't look like a 99% intercept rate to me.

 

[DadSmith]

That doesn't look like a 99% intercept rate to me.

You're right it was only like 98.434%
Unless more was fired at them then we have been told.

 

[DadSmith]

 

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