Is this the new United States of America?

[Ziggidy]

My goodness. Where is our leadership? How can “we” allow this to happen?

A NATIONAL DISGRACE: Photos Leaked of Horrific January 6 Prisoner Abuse - Tortured 5 Months in Isolation in a Closet Room with Light on and a Bucket for a Toilet -- Where are the ACLU, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch? | The Gateway Pundit |

January 6 political prisoner Ryan Samsel has been held in prison without trial now since January 2021.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Ark]

The tactics and norms of the GWOT came home for use against domestic dissenters, exactly the way people like me said they would for 20 years.

 

[Leadeye]

The United States of Chicago.

 

[COOPADUP]

They don’t mention what he’s even charged with. Mass murderers get better treatment than this.

 

[Pepi]

Looks fake to me. That guy is fairly buff. He is eating well.

 

[blain]

My goodness. Where is our leadership? How can “we” allow this to happen?

This is "allowed" because the swamp creatures that make or interpret the rules (for everyone else), were voted in or appointed.

 

[Quiet Observer]

He looks pretty healthy for being tortured and abused for 5 months.

 

[ghuns]

While the alleged treatment is abhorrent, I'd say the same about this dude as I would about someone like George Floyd or Michael Brown to a BLM fan; choose your martyrs carefully.

His past record, which is easily googleable, would indicate he ain't the kind of guy you'd want your daughter bringing home.

• In 2006, Samsel allegedly attempted to pull a woman off the road because she owed him $60, and then allegedly punched her windshield and threatened to kill her.
• In 2007, Samsel allegedly got into a man’s car and assaulted him in the face, leaving him toothless and bloodied, police said.
• In 2009, Samsel was convicted on simple assault, after he choked, beat, pushed, and chipped the teeth of a woman he kept against her will for five hours.
• In 2011, Samsel was convicted of simple assault, reckless endangerment and more after smashing a hot pizza in his pregnant girlfriend’s face, beating her, pouring beer over her head, and then throwing her into a canal. He then attempted to drown her, police said.
• In 2015, Samsel was convicted of simple assault for choking a woman into unconsciousness and hit her so hard he gave her a hematoma, police said.
• In 2019, a woman accused Samsel of choking her until unconscious, then breaking into her home and assaulting her, and then raping her, police said.

I'm not saying that would justify this kind of treatment, just that I'd take anything he claims with a few grains of salt, based on previous displays of poor character.

 

[Pepi]

He looks pretty healthy for being tortured and abused for 5 months.

He also has a better pair of shorts than I do LOL

 

[jamil]

While the alleged treatment is abhorrent, I'd say the same about this dude as I would about someone like George Floyd or Michael Brown to a BLM fan; choose your martyrs carefully.

His past record, which is easily googleable, would indicate he ain't the kind of guy you'd want your daughter bringing home.



I'm not saying that would justify this kind of treatment, just that I'd take anything he claims with a few grains of salt, based on previous displays of poor character.

Why was he not in jail already?

 

[Cameramonkey]

He looks pretty healthy for being tortured and abused for 5 months.

do we have exif info on the original photo to show when it was taken?

Not saying its true, just we have no context of how long he was in when it was taken. Its possible the photo isnt new and is just now coming to light.

I'm not making the call either way whether its legit. Just saying that would explain it.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Also, any of them STILL being in jail is outrageous. Given the only person killed that day was a protestor, and we arent talking about murderers, there really isnt a good reason for any of those protesters to still be in jail. People accused of worse are out with an ankle monitor. Keeping them this long is nothing more than making examples out of them. "this is what we do to those that oppose the political machine."

 

[ditcherman]

Moving forward, discerning the truth about anything is going to get complicated.

Something makes my blood boil, but is it his imprisonment or the gateway pundit lying?

 

[Ark]

Also, any of them STILL being in jail is outrageous. Given the only person killed that day was a protestor, and we arent talking about murderers, there really isnt a good reason for any of those protesters to still be in jail. People accused of worse are out with an ankle monitor. Keeping them this long is nothing more than making examples out of them. "this is what we do to those that oppose the political machine."

Completely agree. While this particular claim may or may not be true, the big picture is that the J6 detainees have been subject to detention without trial and a shell game of being moved and hidden in the prison system that is far in excess of what even the most violent and deranged criminals recieve.

For what are, overwhelmingly, minor and nonviolent crimes. This is a clear campaign to terrorize conservatives out of ever demonstrating in DC again.

 

[ditcherman]

Completely agree. While this particular claim may or may not be true, the big picture is that the J6 detainees have been subject to detention without trial and a shell game of being moved and hidden in the prison system that is far in excess of what even the most violent and deranged criminals recieve.

For what are, overwhelmingly, minor and nonviolent crimes. This is a clear campaign to terrorize conservatives out of ever demonstrating in DC again.

The powers that be aren't threatened by violent and deranged people.
They're threatened by We the People not divided.
This is the evidence.

 

[HoughMade]

Moving forward, discerning the truth about anything is going to get complicated.

Something makes my blood boil, but is it his imprisonment or the gateway pundit lying?

or the Gateway Pundit laying all discernment aside and being willing to believe what they are told because: a) they are predisposed to believe it, or b) it gets clicks. There's plenty of that going around.

Mop bucket. Mop sink.....

 

[ditcherman]

or the Gateway Pundit laying all discernment aside and being willing to believe what they are told because: a) they are predisposed to believe it, or b) it gets clicks. There's plenty of that going around.

Mop bucket. Mop sink.....

Meh. I'd classify any of that behavior as just 'lying'. But then I'm not a professional that knows all the terminology and nuances thereof.

 

[HoughMade]

All I know is that Mr. Samsel has a lawyer in his case, and while there has been some discussion in that case about him getting medical referrals to physicians outside the BOP, there are no filings about inhumane conditions, or any conditions of confinement other than the aforementioned medical care. Also, a trial was set for April 2023, but all counsel including Mr. Samsel's signed onto a continuance.

...and he is currently at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, not in Philadelphia.

 

[jamil]

or the Gateway Pundit laying all discernment aside and being willing to believe what they are told because: a) they are predisposed to believe it, or b) it gets clicks. There's plenty of that going around.

Mop bucket. Mop sink.....

Probably it gets clicks.

 

[ditcherman]

Probably it gets clicks.

But it’s immoral, same as a lie, right?

Should I have already given up on “our side” self-policing and weeding out the immoral?
Of course, I’d be the first to argue that’s not how you win.