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  • BugI02

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    Call me a cynic or pessimist, but, while I'm happy with the apperant result, this should have been a complete rout considering what we've experienced over the last half a decade, but especially the last 9 months. That this wasn't a win by a 15-20 point margin is a demonstration of the unplumbed depths of abject stupidity of a significant portion of the American electorate.
    Biden carried Virginia by 10 points in 2020, so I would consider it a 12 point swing for Youngkin and thus pretty close to what you were looking for. Don't forget the accompanying sweep of statewide offices and the turning of the state legislature. It may not be a landslide but it is an earthquake
     

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    Youngkin won for a number of reasons. Foremost is probably his own personality. He's real. He's a straight talker.

    Second, Critical Race Theory and a dismal performance to date by the Biden administration not only pulled some moderate RINO's back into the republican camp, it also pulled a portion of the independents and some democrats. We'll have to wait for the pundits to tell us why, but CRT is a terrible set of concepts and unacceptable to the majority of Americans.

    Clearly, this election shows you don't need Trump to win, and might serve as a roadmap to further republican victories in 2024. A party without Trump will appeal to a broader set of citizens.

    As to you cynics who believe everyone cheats if you don't win.....grow up.
    The Democrat platform mistake was that they thought their anti Trump vote in the 2020 election gave them free reign to go nuts in the opposite direction. They are quickly finding out that they are pushing it to far and it will bite them in the ass.
     

    bwframe

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    ...As to you cynics who believe everyone cheats if you don't win.....grow up.

    Plenty of proof of election fraud out there. And that's just the amount that we've actually caught you dems at. Lots of indication of more that cannot be discovered by the "racists" :rolleyes: who want voter ID required.

    You don't get to claim that the dems are not cheating until you can authenticate your votes and make voter ID the law everywhere. Including and especially your metro dem strongholds.

    It's the only way your man is in the Whitehouse now... :nono::nono::nono:
     

    MCgrease08

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    The Democrat platform mistake was that they thought their anti Trump vote in the 2020 election gave them free reign to go nuts in the opposite direction. They are quickly finding out that they are pushing it to far and it will bite them in the ass.
    But they won't come to that realization, because they're incapable of actually learning anything from their mistakes. They're already doubling down on their extremism.

    "Terry McAuliffe ran the milquetoast campaign he wanted to run — where every other word he uttered was ‘Donald Trump’ instead of focusing on the issues voters cared about the most," the groups wrote.

    "What happened in Virginia is what happens when Democrats fail to take on the GOP’s divide-and-conquer racism and motivate people to turn out," they continued. "The McAuliffe campaign had no comprehensive pro-worker economic message against a literal private equity magnate. It had no positive message on what the next four years would be like for Virginians. It had no rebuttal to Republican race-baiting bull----. Put simply: it was a campaign designed to fail."

    "This was a controlled experiment for what NOT to do in 2022," they wrote. "This is what it looks like when Democrats get caught flat-footed and let Republicans dictate the terms of the debate by manufacturing a fake ‘education crisis.’ It does not have to be this way. There is still time to adopt an inclusive economic message that crowds out racist dog whistles. There is still time to go on offense and fight for the very voters who powered Democratic victories in 2020."

     

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    The Democrat platform mistake was that they thought their anti Trump vote in the 2020 election gave them free reign to go nuts in the opposite direction. They are quickly finding out that they are pushing it to far and it will bite them in the ass.


    Yep, that is one part of it. That's relying on a weakness. Youngkin didn't use Trump, so that weakness disappeared to a degree. I believe Critical Race Theory will be a major point in 2024. Most of America is fed up with the elevation of protected classes to "superior rights" over regular citizens. It could be a landslide if democrats don't get their acts together.
     

    BugI02

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    And she was elected by a state-wide electorate, which means she's a threat to the Democrats' future there. Boy is she ever going to get attacked. She's the anti-Stacey Abrams and will be treated accordingly.

    I still think it's laughable how the Democrats were claiming the transgender school policies played no role in facilitating that student committing the two restroom sexual assaults. The Republicans said, "Oh yeah? Let's allow the voters to decide that." The Democrats were caught totally flat-footed by the outrage generated by that coverup, and were unable to respond because they are so captured by the provincial interests of the LBGTQ lobby.

    The other take-away is that Trumpist policies can win, if you subtract away the mean tweets. The Democrats are scared shtless at the prospect of Trumpist policies and messaging being "tuned" to appeal to Suburban sensitivities. It definitely makes things interesting, because it proves that if the Democrats over-play their hand on social justice, they can lose the Suburbs to Trumpist messaging, if that messaging is delivered in a non-crass manner.
    "You can believe what you wanna' believe" - Tom Petty, Refugee

    I was wondering if you or CanineAvatar would be by to spin this for us, and you did not disappoint

    Those people were voting against tyranny and communism and the indoctrination of their children, not in favor of 'less Trumpist messaging'
     

    Alpo

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    Plenty of proof of election fraud out there. And that's just the amount that we've actually caught you dems at. Lots of indication of more that cannot be discovered by the "racists" :rolleyes: who want voter ID required.

    You don't get to claim that the dems are not cheating until you can authenticate your votes and make voter ID the law everywhere. Including and especially your metro dem strongholds.

    It's the only way your man is in the Whitehouse now... :nono::nono::nono:
    Oh, puhleeze.

    Trump tried to destroy democracy and you bought into it.
     

    printcraft

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    Fortunately democrats seem incapable of introspection and understanding the real reasons behind why they're losing. No matter what lesson they should learn, they generally convince themselves the exact opposite is true.

    From CNN today:



    People are clearly pissed off that they haven't gone radical enough in hamstringing the country.
     

    printcraft

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    Oh, puhleeze.

    Trump tried to destroy democracy and you bought into it.

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    DoggyDaddy

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    But they won't come to that realization, because they're incapable of actually learning anything from their mistakes. They're already doubling down on their extremism.



    Wait, they're claiming it was the Republicans that made everything about race?? Good lord... :nuts:
     

    Alpo

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    Haven't you learned anything from McAuliffe and Biden and Harris and Obama and the rest of your big mouth dems?

    Throwing Trump's name around does not save you from your losing arguments. :toilet2:

    The lesson to be learned: Trump is despised and is a detriment to the republican party. You can win elections without Trump. You may not win them if he becomes involved.

    Not rocket science.
     

    HoughMade

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    Oh, puhleeze.

    Trump tried to destroy democracy and you bought into it.
    Personally, I believe that Trump believes that the election was "stolen". Therefore, I don't think whatever he did was a knowing attempt to "destroy democracy". The absence of any evidence of anything large enough to turn the tide, notwithstanding. The truth of the matter is, post election, he didn't do all that much but talk about it.

    Oh, and I find the "there had to be fraud in Virginia, but the lead was too large to overcome" talk amusing. Still waiting to hear: "they gave this election away so people stop looking at fraud" claim.
     

    Alpo

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    Personally, I believe that Trump believes that the election was "stolen". Therefore, I don't think whatever he did was a knowing attempt to "destroy democracy". The absence of any evidence of anything large enough to turn the tide, notwithstanding. The truth of the matter is, post election, he didn't do all that much but talk about it.

    Oh, and I find the "there had to be fraud in Virginia, but the lead was too large to overcome" talk amusing.
    We'll have to wait and see what comes out of the Jan 6 investigations. I don't see much upside for The Donald.
     
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