Hornady sides with slidin biden

[Ingomike]

I say its time to boycott. Get woke, get broke!

So the biggest suppliers of guns we have are corporations that need money. Banking services, and other things from woke businesses, they have to play the game. If we boycott them we will have no one to buy from. There are only a handful of ammo suppliers out there and an ammo shortage. How many do you want to put out of business?

 

[manifest destiny]

Maybe the pressure needs to be on the bully (osha) and not the bullied (biz).

 

[BehindBlueI's]

The number of people who care enough to actually boycott and who will stick to their guns the first time they need ammo and Hornady is what's left on the shelf is not even a rounding error to Hornady. They will not notice your boycott, they are not lacking for customers.

 

[binkerton]

Maybe the pressure needs to be on the bully (osha) and not the bullied (biz).

Use the approach that scientology did with the IRS. They determined it was more effective to get the individual employees attention than to try and get the attention of the entire beast.

Not that I support scientology, those people are nuts. But it worked after about a decade long campaign.

 

[BigRed]

obiden can burn in ****

 

[Tombs]

I avoided hornady like the plague since they started blowing up guns with their frontier ammo.

Sounds like even more reason to stay far away.

 

[Lost Californian]

I just read hornady has issued vax mandates. I just bought a hornady shirt with the Gadsden snake. What a disappointment.

Ford asks union and salaried employees to submit vaccination status​

Ford asks union and salaried employees to submit vaccination status

The submission process is required for salaried employees, but voluntary for the automaker's employees represented by the United Auto Workers union.

www.cnbc.com

GM requires U.S. salaried workers to disclose their vaccination status​

GM requires U.S. salaried workers to disclose their vaccination status

In a letter to employees, the automaker said it will use the information to shape safety protocols around COVID-19.

www.detroitnews.com

Shall we boycott the auto industry, too?

Shell Weighs COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate, Firing Staff Who Resist​

Shell Weighs COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate, Firing Staff Who Resist

A Shell company memo dated Sept. 1 states that while “all reasonable efforts” would be made to avoid terminating employment of staff who refuse to comply with the vaccine mandate, the company “will be faced with no alternative but to do so.”

www.hartenergy.com

US energy firms weigh in on employee vaccine mandates​

US energy firms weigh in on employee vaccine mandates

The U.S. energy industry is weighing in on COVID-19 vaccine mandates for employees as infections are on the rise following the spread of the Delta variant.

www.foxbusiness.com

Nobody should be buying gasoline or diesel from the petro companies vaxxing their employees either

 

[BigRed]

"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers".
-William Shakespeare

 

[Ark]

Some people on Youtube claiming Hornady has now backed down.

 

[Trapper Jim]

Boycotts don’t work on this scale that the product is back ordered for years to come. The buying public is a fickle and cheap one. Hence the 3rd world guns and ammo being bought when one could try harder to keep our money here where we live. Dignity costs more and there is less and less of that each day.

 

[Brian's Surplus]

Once my current supply of Hornady bullets is used up I'm probably done with Hornady and NOT BECAUSE of any Democratic Socialist Party vaccine mandates rather the price of their bullets. When it costs over a buck just in bullets alone to fire 4 rounds of 357 Magnum 158 XTPs that's too much for me. Thats at Midway's current price of $28 per 100 158XTPS.

ALL manufacturers have raised their prices, not just Hornady. It's not so much that things cost more, it's more that the current policies by the Biden administration have made it so your money is not worth nearly as much. It's not Hornady stealing that money from you, it's Biden.

 

[cobber]

"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers".
-William Shakespeare

Umm, what did he say about faceless bureaucrats promulgating and hiding behind mountains of oppressive regulations?

 

[drillsgt]

Boycotts don’t work on this scale that the product is back ordered for years to come. The buying public is a fickle and cheap one. Hence the 3rd world guns and ammo being bought when one could try harder to keep our money here where we live. Dignity costs more and there is less and less of that each day.

I'm seeing so much ammo now i've never even heard of, guns too, so many rebranded Turkish shotguns, and a seemingly endless supply of those 12 Ga AR looking shotguns.

 

[blues bondsman]

It all comes down to individuals and their willingness to fight for freedom.
Yes it will cost them something, financial hardship and losses of many kinds have always been the price of standing against tyranny.
So many are just too comfortable and will willingly give up freedom for security.
Like the Germans in WWII Look the other way and "Just following orders".
Our nation is full of weak minded people who will be willing to give away the greatest freedom ever known in human history.

 

[ECS686]

ALL manufacturers have raised their prices, not just Hornady. It's not so much that things cost more, it's more that the current policies by the Biden administration have made it so your money is not worth nearly as much. It's not Hornady stealing that money from you, it's Biden.

1st Apparently Hornady dropped the vax stuff.

2nd on the Ammo manufacturers All of them were planning to raise prices 13 to 15% pre Covid anyway. This was because the price of the materials for rounds had small increases for several years but not many companies really raised their price but adtwr so many years were planning to raise due to costs.

Factor in the pandemic and it made it worse. And eveyone has an angle on it.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

It's not for all companies > 100 employees. It's for all companies > 100 employees with Federal contracts.

I guess if you're in the gun industry, the Federal Teat is just too much to pass up.

Nailed it.

If you don't want to do the King's bidding, stop taking the King's shilling.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

In today's market, every single round Hornady took away from the feds would instantly be snapped up by consumers, probably at a lot more than the government is paying.

If they had any integrity at all, they'd tell the feds to cram their contracts up their asses and they wouldn't be getting a single round of Hornady ammo until the mandates were dead and buried.

One would think.

 

[Leadeye]

It would seem that just making an opposing opinion heard, loudly, has some affect on this. I think the last thing a business would want to do is embrace mandates, incur ire and lose valuable employees only to see the whole thing tied up or overturned in court.

 

[Les Paul]

Here is what you have to remember: It cuts both ways. Refer back to the letter: It reads THEY HAVE GOV'T CONTRACTS. Speer, Nosler, Remington, Sierra, they ALL have them. If they were to band together and refuse, where is Biden's shock-troops going to get their bullets? Lake City only produces specialty ammo. Many of the components come from guess who? I don't understand why Hornady is caving in like this, other than they are comfortable preserving the status quo, and this is the easy way out for them. The bullet manufacturers have allot more leverage here than most realize.

 

[Brian's Surplus]

Here is what you have to remember: It cuts both ways. Refer back to the letter: It reads THEY HAVE GOV'T CONTRACTS. Speer, Nosler, Remington, Sierra, they ALL have them. If they were to band together and refuse, where is Biden's shock-troops going to get their bullets? Lake City only produces specialty ammo. Many of the components come from guess who? I don't understand why Hornady is caving in like this, other than they are comfortable preserving the status quo, and this is the easy way out for them. The bullet manufacturers have allot more leverage here than most realize.

You list off those companies like they are separate entities. All of the really big ones are owned by 2 companies, Vista and Olin.

I doubt that Nosler and Hornady combined could pull the weight of a large military contract. They don't have the proper equipment for the volume of specialty cartridges the military needs.

With Olin operating the government owned facilities at the Lake City Army Ammunition Plant, I seriously doubt they will tell Uncle Sam to F*** off.
Vista is a massive company. As much as I would like to see it, I think it is highly unlikely for them to go against the government on this as well.

Even if ALL these companies told Biden to pound sand, it's likely that they would simply assume control of Lake City and bring in new workers. It would be a total Cluster**** for awhile, but they could probably get it done.

There are also other companies that would be glad to build new facilities and take up the slack (GE, Lockheed Martin, etc.) These companies (and their subsidiaries) already provide bombs and missiles to the DOD.

As much as I would like to see EVERY company tell Biden what he can do with these policies, I think these are unrealistic hopes...