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  • DCR

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    I'm confused about why home invasions happen where they do. There is a thread about a home invasion and an 11-yr-old protecting his mother. On the news tonight was another story about HI. Neither story reports a motive. In the recent multiple murders in Indpls, the BGs thought there was a safe in the home I believe. So that one I guess I understand.

    It struck me tonight and in most HIs that they occur in lower middle class neighborhoods. Why wouldn't the BGs hit a higher clientele? I don't get it. Do you suppose it's more a crime of convenience? i.e. Why would I drive up to a fancy neighborhood for my home invasion, I'll just hit Joe across the street. My wife says if criminals were smart, they wouldn't need to be criminals. Any ideas?
     

    JohnP82

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    Just shows it can happen anytime, anywhere. That is why it is best to be prepared. I agree though they usually don't seem well planned, but like she said if they were smarter they wouldn't be criminals.
     

    Bigum1969

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    in CA where I grew up, home invasions were common. They were gruesome sometimes as well. Mostly wealthy folks were targeted there.
     

    Denny347

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    Most home invasions in Indy are drug related. Much of the rest, the victim knew the suspect. What I mean is that the suspect had been invited in the house before and came back later to rob them. Sadly there was just a poor 90yr old that was killed in a home invasion near Mars Hill. Outside of drug related, it seems as though the elderly are targeted more often. I worked one a few years ago that the elderly couple answered a knock at the door and the old man had his head bashed in with a brick in front of his wife, killed him. The suspect was a homeless guy who the couple had hired to cut the grass. What a messed up crime scene. What seemed random, was certainly not. Watch who you associate with and who your friends bring to your house with them.
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    Why wouldn't the BGs hit a higher clientele?

    1. Most crime transpires within similar SESs (SES=Socio-Ecnomic Status).

    Think about it, Cledus' pickemup truck, or Ice Dog's G Glide Ride, is going to stick out like a sore thumb at Geist, Westfield, or Carmel and draw a lot of police attention.

    That same vehicle will not attract attention in Mars Hill or 24th and New Jersey.

    Lots of exceptions, just ask Sharon Tate.

    2. Most home invasions are predicated on some sort of "intelligence" or scouting report. Often the intel is faulty, but why invade a home that you do not think you have solid info on.

    The way to obtain this info is to observe the home. That is harder to do cruising about Carmel and speaking to CPD's Officer Bored-Out-Of-My-Mind at the roundabout.

    3. Higher end homes are more likely to have dogs, alarms, security cameras, and even armed home owners who will shoot you with higher end firearms.
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    Handy Home Invasion Chart (what you will be shot with):

    Geist: Korth or Merkel

    Avon: New Smith & Wesson or SIG

    Camby: Smith M10 with most of bluing worn off

    Martinsville: everything
     

    colt45er

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    1. Most crime transpires within similar SESs (SES=Socio-Ecnomic Status).

    Think about it, Cledus' pickemup truck, or Ice Dog's G Glide Ride, is going to stick out like a sore thumb at Geist, Westfield, or Carmel and draw a lot of police attention.

    That same vehicle will not attract attention in Mars Hill or 24th and New Jersey.

    Lots of exceptions, just ask Sharon Tate.

    2. Most home invasions are predicated on some sort of "intelligence" or scouting report. Often the intel is faulty, but why invade a home that you do not think you have solid info on.

    The way to obtain this info is to observe the home. That is harder to do cruising about Carmel and speaking to CPD's Officer Bored-Out-Of-My-Mind at the roundabout.

    3. Higher end homes are more likely to have dogs, alarms, security cameras, and even armed home owners who will shoot you with higher end firearms.


    #3 is at the top of the list! Why would I break into a house that will automatically call the police? Why not one that doesn't?

    This is why more and more home invasions are happening while people are home. Most people don't set their alarm when they are home. A lot of the time the doors are unlocked.
     

    Mr Clean

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    Just shows it can happen anytime, anywhere. That is why it is best to be prepared. I agree though they usually don't seem well planned, but like she said if they were smarter they wouldn't be criminals.


    I feel like I am in a beer commercial....Because it just doesn't get any better than this. He hit the nail on the head
     

    sam colt

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    Did you notice ch.8 reporting a fatal HI,with a 16 yr. old His.female getting KILLED . After the 1st. airing,they never mentioned SHE was 1 of the INVADERS,or that SHE SHOT THE HOME OWNER IN THE NECK !!!!,,,before he killed her.
     

    printcraft

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    Did you notice ch.8 reporting a fatal HI,with a 16 yr. old His.female getting KILLED . After the 1st. airing,they never mentioned SHE was 1 of the INVADERS,or that SHE SHOT THE HOME OWNER IN THE NECK !!!!,,,before he killed her.


    Of course not, that does not fit the template of "guns r bad"
    You're not supposed to defend yourself from criminals that enter your home.
    WWED = What Would England Do?
     

    ddenny5

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    You have to understand that those that do have money can afford to buy alarm systems. They can afford to hire private security. Some of the wealthy live in gated communities which will deter home invaders. Last but not least, many of these same wealthy homeowners will have firearms for the reason of home protection.
     

    pinshooter45

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    I Hired a Dog!

    You have to understand that those that do have money can afford to buy alarm systems. They can afford to hire private security. Some of the wealthy live in gated communities which will deter home invaders. Last but not least, many of these same wealthy homeowners will have firearms for the reason of home protection.
    I think that the best investment the average person can do is get a dog. I have a Chow that is EXTREMLY loyal and raises hell any time someone strange is near. And she's our best friend and really a big baby when you get to know her! Paul Harvey once said for the best protection get a very big dog...then get a little one to keep the big one awake!
     

    inxs

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    Maybe you could say that criminals covet what they see every day (ala Hannibal Lecter) but then maybe they figure the harder that people work for what they have the harder they will work to defend it...
     
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    The home next to me has been invaded at least twice, and one time it was an armed invasion and beating of the druggie punks that lived there. They don't touch my place. One time, one of the next door punks talked about breaking into my place and was told by someone who knew me, "Don't do it. Pick someplace else. You might not get out of Tim's house alive."

    Where I live, the majority of home invasions are directly related to the stupidity of the people living there.
     

    dross

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    I would suspect it's also what they know. They know who is who and what is what in an area more like the area they've lived in. Most people are nervous in places they don't understand.
     

    kludge

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    Most home invasions in Indy are drug related. Much of the rest, the victim knew the suspect. What I mean is that the suspect had been invited in the house before and came back later to rob them. <snip> What seemed random, was certainly not. Watch who you associate with and who your friends bring to your house with them.

    This.

    And it's not just about home invasion.
     
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