H1N1: WIFE PREGNANT: DR SAYS "TAKE VACCINE" - WHAT DO YOU SAY?

[bigus_D]

I think the title says it all...

My wife's final decision may be final... maybe not.

My "final decision" (notice the quotes on the 'my' part of it... a quick shout out to those people that think women actually can think for them selves and are comfortable living with this fact) may be "final" or not (notice the "quotes" again).

What do YOU think?

NOTE:
Here is the question again without commentary:
" Should my pregnant wife take the N1H1 flu vaccination, in YOUR opinion?"

 

[The Meach]

No, It hasn't been tested enough IMHO and i would be worried about the side effects.

 

[hotfarmboy1]

No, It hasn't been tested enough IMHO and i would be worried about the side effects.

Exactly. Plus I am against the vaccine anyways. It's BS if you ask me.

 

[United]

no way in hell, not tested neraly enough and won't be for quite some time.

 

[infidel]

I'm with these guys.

 

[redneckmedic]

We are in the same boat.... have her take the reg flu vac. but not H1N1, I will not take it period!!!

 

[Bill of Rights]

If the guys who created the bloody thing won't take it, why should she?

 

[Timjoebillybob]

My opinion maybe.
If she is generally healthy no.
If she has health issues other than pregnancy that would put her at high risk then maybe. Or perhaps if there were other reasons that may put her into a high risk category such as school teacher especially pre-school or elementary or health care worker for example. In cases like that I would have to weigh the possible +/- against each other to decide.

 

[csaws]

I think the title says it all...

My wife's final decision may be final... maybe not.

My "final decision" (notice the quotes on the 'my' part of it... a quick shout out to those people that think women actually can think for them selves and are comfortable living with this fact) may be "final" or not (notice the "quotes" again).

What do YOU think?

NOTE:
Here is the question again without commentary:
" Should my pregnant wife take the N1H1 flu vaccination, in YOUR opinion?"

Doc: you need to take H1N1
Us: GFY...

Go
F_ _ _
Yourself

Doctors push vaccines of all sorts because drug companies hire hot little pieces of **** (they have a male version of this too) to parade around their offices feeding the (mostly) fat arse women that work for them and giving away stuff. In the past I have dated a lot of girls that were in the medical profession that were skinny when we started and ballooned over the years from being fed all day everyday, (all well and good for me as I finally found my little bitty wifey after leaving them). People that work that industry are model types but should be classified as drug company pimps and prostitutes.

Most vaccines only work 50% of the time at best. We have not vacc'ed our kids at all because we think (and have studied a lot about it) that all vaccines are unsafe (I know someone here that wholeheartedly disagrees with me about this but he is in the profession).

 

[Indy317]

Most vaccines only work 50% of the time at best. We have not vacc'ed our kids at all because we think and have studied a lot about it that all vaccines are unsafe (I know someone here that wholeheartedly disagrees with me about this but he is in the profession).

I think the old school vaccines were OK. You take a weakened or dying virus, you give it to a person, their body is more than likely going to react to that virus by killing it. However, it seems the race in big pharma/medicine is that we now have to have such exotic drugs, that I don't trust them anymore. I also hate the idea of blanket immunity for drug makers, the government, etc.. What is even worse is the renewed push for mandatory, no exception vaccination plans by big pharma. Gardasil is the latest. These companies take their drugs to poor areas of densely populated countries and do their tests there. Even those counties give these companies a pass with laws and such. They then say it is safe, then spend millions of dollars trying to get elected officials to push mandatory vaccination.

Did you know that Gardasil is already mandated for folks to become citizens? Sickening.

Gardasil HPV Vaccine: Roadblock to U.S. Citizenship for Immigrants - ABC News

Just wait till government takes over all health care, which is the goal and will happen once they get their government option going. No vaccine, then you will be ordered to pay thousands more for your healthcare.

 

[bigus_D]

Note: My wife is an elementary school teacher.

Note 2: Pregnant women are only to be given the dead version of a vaccine (according to our OB)

 

[bft131]

Ask the doc is HE is going to take it...We have been given a sign up sheet here at work, majority will get the regular shot but like rednickmedic, we are not taking the "Swine Flu" shot...No way, its like buying the first year of a car

 

[redneckmedic]

Most vaccines only work 50% of the time at best. We have not vacc'ed our kids at all because we think and have studied a lot about it that all vaccines are unsafe (I know someone here that wholeheartedly disagrees with me about this but he is in the profession).

I agree and disagree. There is too much stuff given to kids and people in the last 15yrs without enough data and too much crap in general. Most drugs go through extensive studies from upward of 10 yrs before they really get close to a public study. How is that possible with H1N1?

On the other hand... vaccines are GOOD, they have wiped out almost entire strains of diseases that decimated entire countries! Small Pox, measles, mumps, rubella, infantigo, trench foot, canker sores, well I'm being a little facetious but the point is don't get all Oprah and jump on the band wagon of vaccines are bad and hurt kids, it that was true pediatricians wouldn't give them out, Peds Docs love kids. The pharm reps your talking about parade in ER's, Onocolgy wards, and GP offices. Your PCP is the biggest money ticket to them as he Rx most of the meds that they make money on without a specialist.

all vaccines are unsafe

I would like to see any reproducable study that proves this, the fact is it is a generalization and just isn't true.

 

[Arm America]

For my wife, it would depend on a couple of circumstances.
Does she currently work in a field that raises her exposure chances,
(day care, school or medical field)
If not, then I would suggest to her that she pass.
While I respect Doctors and the huge amount of dedication that is required,
They have a license to practice & their mistakes are buried.

 

[right winger]

H1N1: WIFE PREGNANT: DR SAYS "TAKE VACINE" - WHAT DO YOU SAY?

NO WAY!

 

[csaws]

I agree and disagree. There is too much stuff given to kids and people in the last 15yrs without enough data and too much crap in general. Most drugs go through extensive studies from upward of 10 yrs before they really get close to a public study. How is that possible with H1N1?

On the other hand... vaccines are GOOD, they have wiped out almost entire strains of diseases that decimated entire countries! Small Pox, measles, mumps, rubella, infantigo, trench foot, canker sores, well I'm being a little facetious but the point is don't get all Oprah and jump on the band wagon of vaccines are bad and hurt kids, it that was true pediatricians wouldn't give them out, Peds Docs love kids. The pharm reps your talking about parade in ER's, Onocolgy wards, and GP offices. Your PCP is the biggest money ticket to them as he Rx most of the meds that they make money on without a specialist.



I would like to see any reproducable study that proves this, the fact is it is a generalization and just isn't true.

OK it was early and I was in a hurry I should not have said all vaccines are unsafe, I should have said we believe all vaccines to be unsafe, (oh wait I did say exactly that, however I did forget the parenthesis and have now fixed it). Since this country has a herd vaccination mentality the vacc'ed population should not be concerned if my kids aren't vacc'ed since they work 100% of the time.... or maybe that is exactly why Gov't and Pharma want to make them mandatory because they don't always work.

I answered the question with my opinion, if you disagree with me fine, we can just agree to disagree and go on... there has already been a thread about vaccinating kids here and I stated my case there. If you want to see some of the stuff we studied go to mercola.com and search vaccines. This is not the only info we studied but there is a lot there.

As for the Oprah comment, I am not a leftist so any kool-aid she pours I dump out. I also will not wholeheartedly go on blind faith of some doc or pharma company saying they are 100% safe and effective.

I have done one step for you here is an electronic book linked to mercola.com

Book

 

[redneckmedic]

OK it was early and I was in a hurry I should not have said all vaccines are unsafe, I should have said we believe all vaccines to be unsafe, (oh wait I did say exactly that, however I did forget the parenthesis and have now fixed it). Since this country has a herd vaccination mentality the vacc'ed population should not be concerned if my kids aren't vacc'ed since they work 100% of the time.... or maybe that is exactly why Gov't and Pharma want to make them mandatory because they don't always work.

I answered the question with my opinion, if you disagree with me fine, we can just agree to disagree and go on... there has already been a thread about vaccinating kids here and I stated my case there. If you want to see some of the stuff we studied go to mercola.com and search vaccines. This is not the only info we studied but there is a lot there.

As for the Oprah comment, I am not a leftist so any kool-aid she pours I dump out. I also will not wholeheartedly go on blind faith of some doc or pharma company saying they are 100% safe and effective.

Don't take my response as a personal attack it wasn't, and the Oprah comment was a general term used to fight the Vac. argument. Its silly to see adults follow TV hosts blindly or idololicly (It think I just made up a word). Not saying you do that but her ideas come to mind with this argument specifically. The facts still stand that millions of people of many generations and nations have been saved because of vaccines. I'll play those odds any day. Can some stand of some protein effect one person who has a antigen or DNA complex not suited for it...sure, and some people can't eat peanuts too. Nothing in medicine is 100%. I can agree to disagree.

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

Nothing in medicine is 100%.

That's why it is said that doctors "practice" medicine . After all , practicing medicine is the art of going wrong with confidence .

 

[JetGirl]

NO.

 

[bigus_D]

well... I am not surprised to see the strong opinions AGAINST having my wife take the vaccine (despite her being a pregnant elementary school teacher, precisely the highest risk category for the flu and the most likely to be directed to get the vaccine).

We've discussed this with our OB and she will most likely get the vaccine. We still have a couple of questions about it, but I trust the doctor and believe (per the answers she has provided thus far) that she has been educating herself to a degree greater than I (and greater than you... YES, I'M TALKING TO YOU!)

Anyhow, at dinner last night I asked my friend's pregnant wife if she is going to get the vaccine. When she responded "yes", I asked her if she was worried about how the vaccine is produced primarily by our 'frienemey' Japan. I furthered this question with a comment about how they are trying to sterilize an entire generation of Americans since Pearl Harbor was a bust... (This is not meant to be a factual comment... just a joke I was making)... she was planning to get it, as is my wife.