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  • Cavman

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    Probably with his brother out he figures he'd lose anyways. He never did crap or fought just like most of them
     

    HKFaninCarmel

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    So we should capitulate to the uniparty?
    Not everyone has taken the bait on this "uniparty" bit. It implies that any movement that isn't aligned with the purest interpretation of ideology is essentially the same as the other end of the spectrum. That a D majority and an R majority produce the same thing. It isn't true and completely denies the reality of having only a House majority. People can feign outrage every time, but they can't expect everyone to embrace a shut it down until we get our way approach, the same as you wouldn't had Pelosi shut down the government in 2019 to get all of her demands met.

    Usually, "uniparty" gets thrown out when someone on the fringe doesn't get their way and blames others for not making it happen.
     

    Tombs

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    Not everyone has taken the bait on this "uniparty" bit. It implies that any movement that isn't aligned with the purest interpretation of ideology is essentially the same as the other end of the spectrum. That a D majority and an R majority produce the same thing. It isn't true and completely denies the reality of having only a House majority. People can feign outrage every time, but they can't expect everyone to embrace a shut it down until we get our way approach, the same as you wouldn't had Pelosi shut down the government in 2019 to get all of her demands met.

    Usually, "uniparty" gets thrown out when someone on the fringe doesn't get their way and blames others for not making it happen.

    So your statement is "Yes, go along with the uniparty, even acknowledging this means you're fringe."

    No thanks.
     

    Ziggidy

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    Not everyone has taken the bait on this "uniparty" bit. It implies that any movement that isn't aligned with the purest interpretation of ideology is essentially the same as the other end of the spectrum. That a D majority and an R majority produce the same thing. It isn't true and completely denies the reality of having only a House majority. People can feign outrage every time, but they can't expect everyone to embrace a shut it down until we get our way approach, the same as you wouldn't had Pelosi shut down the government in 2019 to get all of her demands met.

    Usually, "uniparty" gets thrown out when someone on the fringe doesn't get their way and blames others for not making it happen.
    D-Party, R-Party, I-Party, L-Party, S-Party & Uniparty.

    I would like to see and “American” Party. I get tired of the labels, they‘re bogus. Platforms and agendas have changed so much over the last 50 years or longer, that no one truly knows who they support and vote for. That is very sad. Do the democrats of 60 years ago truly support the democrats of today? Same goes for the Republicans And other parties. We have become so accustomed to punching letters when we go to vote instead of knowing who we‘re voting for; and the politicians know this, and use it to their advantage. We the people, in a sense, have our backs up against the wall. The socialist party is advancing in spite of our outcries since they have infiltrated every political “party”.

    When you take a step back you will see the work of the enemy in all this. America has been side tracked we have taken our eye off the ball. We have been divided, then divided again and again. There is confusion in every corner, every room and through every door.

    Sorry, I’m babbling; you get the point.
     

    jwamplerusa

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    Not everyone has taken the bait on this "uniparty" bit. It implies that any movement that isn't aligned with the purest interpretation of ideology is essentially the same as the other end of the spectrum. That a D majority and an R majority produce the same thing. It isn't true and completely denies the reality of having only a House majority. People can feign outrage every time, but they can't expect everyone to embrace a shut it down until we get our way approach, the same as you wouldn't had Pelosi shut down the government in 2019 to get all of her demands met.

    Usually, "uniparty" gets thrown out when someone on the fringe doesn't get their way and blames others for not making it happen.
    I stopped buying this line after 2016 - 2018. Republicans had the House, Senate, and the Executive branch.

    Three letters for you, HPA. They couldn't even get that done.

    There are few meaningful differences between the parties other than playing one group of serfs off another.

    That period is one reason I have elected to only support those who I assess as being constitutionalists. If the candidate does not reference the Constitution and demonstrate a commitment to it they don't get my vote. If they are an incumbent, I check their voting history. I don't care what letter is after their name any longer.

    All but a few incumbents are functionally indistinguishable from the other party when looking at votes over time ( cough, Young, cough).

    Now from a party platform perspective there is a substantial difference. Sadly however; there does not appear to be any effort to hold those running under the Republican banner to that platform (cough, Shreve, cough).
     

    Tombs

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    I stopped buying this line after 2016 - 2018. Republicans had the House, Senate, and the Executive branch.

    Three letters for you, HPA. They couldn't even get that done.

    There are few meaningful differences between the parties other than playing one group of serfs off another.

    That period is one reason I have elected to only support those who I assess as being constitutionalists. If the candidate does not reference the Constitution and demonstrate a commitment to it they don't get my vote. If they are an incumbent, I check their voting history. I don't care what letter is after their name any longer.

    All but a few incumbents are functionally indistinguishable from the other party when looking at votes over time ( cough, Young, cough).

    Now from a party platform perspective there is a substantial difference. Sadly however; there does not appear to be any effort to hold those running under the Republican banner to that platform (cough, Shreve, cough).

    Amen, this is the only way out of the mess we're in. An informed populous willing to hold politicians accountable.

    It'll take a very long time and a lot of dedication, but if we stick to doing exactly what you laid out, it WILL work. You just have to ignore people who are part of the problem, like who you're responding to, and stick to your guns.

    The proof is in the pudding. The pressure to differentiate themselves from the uniparty has lead to some fantastic congressmen, like Jordan. This is a trend that can easily continue if cultivated. It's the only reason I hold out some hope that this is a correctable situation.
     

    jwamplerusa

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    I believe I have a good option for my house seat this time, Charles Bookwalter.

    I'm excited by the option of Vivek Ramaswamy.

    I really hope there is a constitutionalist option for Senate.

    I think I hit a home run for my State Rep.
     
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