Good quote from Mitt Romney on how it will all collapse.

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  • smokingman

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    This was part of the same recording where he talked about 47% of voters being dependent on the government(actually around 68% if you include military spending and all federal employees).

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    : "[The] former head of Goldman Sachs, John Whitehead, was also the former head of the New York Federal Reserve. And I met with him, and he said as soon as the Fed stops buying all the debt that we're issuing—which they've been doing, the Fed's buying like three-quarters of the debt that America issues. He(John Whitehead) said, once that's over, he said we're going to have a failed Treasury auction, interest rates are going to have to go up. We're living in this borrowed fantasy world, where the government keeps on borrowing money. You know, we borrow this extra trillion a year, we wonder who's loaning us the trillion? The Chinese aren't loaning us anymore. The Russians aren't loaning it to us anymore. So who's giving us the trillion? And the answer is we're just making it up. The Federal Reserve is just taking it and saying, "Here, we're giving it." It's just made up money, and this does not argue well for our economic future. You know, some of these things are complex enough it's not easy for people to understand, but your point of saying, bankruptcy usually concentrates the mind"

    So he is aware of the problem,but knows there is nothing he can do about it? He sure has not made any public acknowledgement of what he already knows,much less any actual plan.

    I posted this in my https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...ks_gold_silver_and_the_printing_press-32.html thread,but figured more would read it if I just made a thread.
     
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    LEaSH

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    Who knows why he won't bust it open like that in public speeches.

    Maybe there is a barer of bad news effect.

    People don't want to, or can't handle that brutal realization that we're in deep poop.

    We see what happens when the leftist media outlets get a hold of some ugly truths being spoken.
     

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    So he is aware of the problem,but knows there is nothing he can do about it? He sure has not made any public acknowledgement of what he already knows,much less any actual plan.

    That plan would/will cause mass hysteria the likes of which we've never seen. The person articulating the plan, prior to the collapse, will never be elected, I'm afraid. The amplification of the usual charachterizations of being a granny-killing, children-starving, racist, homophobe, etc. would go from absurd to what ever you'd call it when the meter pegs.
     

    blamecharles

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    That plan would/will cause mass hysteria the likes of which we've never seen. The person articulating the plan, prior to the collapse, will never be elected, I'm afraid. The amplification of the usual charachterizations of being a granny-killing, children-starving, racist, homophobe, etc. would go from absurd to what ever you'd call it when the meter pegs.

    They would call the bearer of such news a kook, oh wait they already did that. Ron Paul has spoken of this for 30 years.
     

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    This was part of the same recording where he talked about 47% of voters being dependent on the government(actually around 68% if you include military spending and all federal employees).

    smokingman -- I'm going to take issue with you on the last part of this comment. There is a BIG difference between the 47% who live on government handouts, and federal employees (which includes the military). While I'll be the first to admit that there are too many federal employees, and agencies need to be reduced (even DoD); lumping them into the the same boat as the sluggs living off government welfare, is a wrong assumption. -- Greg/Grizhicks
     

    smokingman

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    smokingman -- I'm going to take issue with you on the last part of this comment. There is a BIG difference between the 47% who live on government handouts, and federal employees (which includes the military). While I'll be the first to admit that there are too many federal employees, and agencies need to be reduced (even DoD); lumping them into the the same boat as the sluggs living off government welfare, is a wrong assumption. -- Greg/Grizhicks

    I am only saying 68% of Americans depend on tax income to survive.If only 53% of Americans pay taxes,and of those 1/3 are paying taxes out of a government check...how many are really paying taxes?
    I have a great deal of respect for our armed services,and served myself.I am not putting any group of Federal empoyees in the same category as people who live off of milking the system,but it is part of the same problem.Our federal government is entirely to large,and has failed the mission laid out in the constitution.
    Establish Justice Rule of law means nothing if money can buy your way out of a crime.
    Insure Domestic Tranquility
    We are not in anarchy yet,unless you count wall street and the FED.
    Provide for Common Defense
    How is that border protection going?
    Form a more perfect Union
    The goal here was to Unite the states,not take all power from them.
    Promote General Welfare
    Not dictate how to live.Regulations on everything was not the intention.
    Ensure the blessings of Liberty to Ourselves and future Posterity
    Millions of regulations,Laws that are directly contrary to liberty,NDAA,Patriot act,a total failure.

    My point.When you create a monster,you have to feed it and the more people that work for it the less there are that actually pay for it.
     
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    netsecurity

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    I'm just glad we're finally talking about the real nitty gritty stuff. The stuff Obama never has the nerve to speak of because he is a very weak leader. We're going to need a lot more Frank and open discussions of painful cuts vs economic collapse for at least another decade. Obama has had his head in the sand trying to spend his way out of debt.

    I believe this secret Romney recording might be the best thing that has happened for him, and the path to his victory. The contrast between the candidates has never been greater. In 2008 the people who were paying attention tried to tell everyone else that Obama was a socialist, but they thought that was mean spirited or even racist rhetoric, but now we've got their attention, and the path to economic success has been redefined as success and not taking from the rich and redistributing, or printing fake money to spread around false hope.

    We have to face our real problems, and our biggest problem is debt. You don't keep taxing and spending right off a fiscal cliff. Unfortunately, Obama has driven over that cliff at full speed with his usual over confidence in himself, at the detriment of the entire nation.
     
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    smokingman

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    I think it may be too. But first we have to get past the media spin.

    There is no way the quote I posted will ever be on the mainstream media.Never going to happen.The top .05% make great money off of inflation,if this where mainstream news they would have a much harder time.

    That is also the reason Romney will do absolutely nothing about it.He knows it is a problem,but if elected my guess would be he would hope it holds together for 4 years.Maybe pass some austerity measures,that will lead to social chaos.But the status quo is not going to change if either Romney or Obama are president.He who controls the money,controls the nation.It is that simple.
     

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    "The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was every invented. Banking was conceived in inequity and born in sin. Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them but leave them the power to create money, and with a flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again. Take this great power away from them and all great fortunes like mine will disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in .. But if you want to continue to be the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let bankers continue to create money and control credit." - Sir Josiah Stamp, President, Bank of England, 1920's.

    EDIT: It appears that the above is a bogus quotation. But it still reflects reality.
     
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    smokingman

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    "The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was every invented. Banking was conceived in inequity and born in sin. Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them but leave them the power to create money, and with a flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again. Take this great power away from them and all great fortunes like mine will disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in .. But if you want to continue to be the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let bankers continue to create money and control credit." - Sir Josiah Stamp, President, Bank of England, 1920's.

    EDIT: It appears that this is a bogus quotation. But it still reflects reality.

    While Mother Jones is a site I put 0 faith in,they do have the entire 36 minute video up.The site may be questionable,the video is not.
    WATCH: Full Secret Video of Private Romney Fundraiser | Mother Jones
    Watch for yourself.

    *My original source was the business wire,but it has since been removed.
     

    lucky4034

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    98% of America is uninformed
    2% are informed, but 98% of that 2% don't WANT to believe it and the other 2% are so overwhelmed they have no clue on what to do

    96% of that 98% wouldn't care anyway, even if they were informed, just so long as long as they have their smartphones
    4% don't have smartphones and that's because their credit is so bad that not even the Federal Reserve is willing to loan them the money to get one.

    94% of that 96% think that the 4% of people who don't have a smartphone make up for 100% of the lower class of this country.
    Apparently if you own a smartphone you are automatically middle class or above.

    50% of the people who categorize themselves as middle class and base that assumption on the fact they have a smartphone are actually lower class but have either been falsely convinced that owning a smartphone = leaving the American Dream... either that or they are dreaming so hard they don't want to Wake Up.
     
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