Get Rich During SHTF

[YoungGunLover]

So basically, I'm wondering if anyone here has a plan to accumulate a lot of wealth during SHTF and come out of it pretty good off. Im talking in a total societal breakdown too. Basically a situation that would be similar to the book Patriots or the like.

So what I'm really wanting to know is who plans on "taking advantage" as some would call it of people? Personally in that situation I would consider anything fair game. Basically who is stocking extra ammo, food, ect that you will use just for the purpose of trading for gold or silver? In a situation where someone is in need of food, water, ammo, you have the upper hand in trading for it.

An example would be buying a 100 pack of 12 gauge birdshot to keep back to trade to someone. You could charge an oz of silver per 10 shells or 1 oz of gold for the whole box, ect. Things like that.

This thought has came accross my mind a few times and wanted to get other people's opinions. And if i ever did anything like this, the trading would never take place near my residence or where I'm hunkering down. And yes, I know there is a risk of arming the enemy.

 

[metaldog]

 

[IndyDave1776]

While my personal SHTF thoughts generally revolve around providing for myself and extended family, if I were to reach the point of addressing turning a profit on my situation I would see providing basic necessities as the way to go. Food is generally at the top of the list, which also requires plenty of ammunition for those who would try to grant themselves a 100% discount on your merchandise. I may include the manufacture of alcohol (after all, inmates make and drink some of the nastiest s**t imaginable in preference to doing without--and I doubt that drunks on the street are any differrent). I would NOT include selling armaments (other than to specifically trusted persons) or supplies which cannot be replenished under the circumstances in which I find myself (i.e., if the Arabs can use their left hands instead of toilet paper, so can everyone else who didn't stock up).

 

[LEaSH]

Not knowing what and how bad of a SHTF we might face, it's hard to tell.

I believe in prosperity belonging to the ones that prepare and self sacrifice. I believe that hording is just a word used by people that make excuses and do not make a plan.

I would do whatever will give myself and my family the best chance for survival and comfortability. But I have personal spiritual responsibilities, too. But they're personal and I wont go there here.

 

[rockhopper46038]

I will have an extremely dim view of those residents of the Benevolent Empire of Rockhopperistan who profiteer and take advantage of their fellow [STRIKE]serfs[/STRIKE] subjects after SHTF.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Not knowing what and how bad of a SHTF we might face, it's hard to tell.

I believe in prosperity belonging to the ones that prepare and self sacrifice. I believe that hording is just a word used by people that make excuses and do not make a plan.

I would do whatever will give myself and my family the best chance for survival and comfortability. But I have personal spiritual responsibilities, too. But they're personal and I wont go there here.

Very well said on all counts. For my own purposes, I would not be unfair with others, would consider certain charitable situation, but would not jeopardize the well-being of my family or create my own little entourage of career charity cases, particularly among those who were enjoying things I had to give up while preparing for such a situation, especially those who ridiculed the effort to prepare, as is the case with one individual in particular who has showered me with contempt transitioning into outright malevolence for even considering the possibility that things aren't going to just keep bobbing along down life's happy little stream. Why share with someone who has been outright hateful to me about my considering that such a thing might happen? Incidentally, this isn't so much a matter of constructing a bunker with supplies packaged to last three lifetimes but rather living in a self-sufficient manner such that I will live and eat better than I am now and be healthier than I presently am along with the majority of my extended family if absolutely nothing goes wrong.

 

[bwframe]

My plan is to take care of myself and family. My first provision being training and knowledge of how to live within whatever the environment is.

In my view, a lot of well intentioned folks will die attempting to trade and barter with the unknown public. I might put you to work though, selling the spoils of those who we caught maliciously preying on others...

 

[Bunnykid68]

Not knowing what and how bad of a SHTF we might face, it's hard to tell.

I believe in prosperity belonging to the ones that prepare and self sacrifice. I believe that hording is just a word used by people that make excuses and do not make a plan.

I would do whatever will give myself and my family the best chance for survival and comfortability. But I have personal spiritual responsibilities, too. But they're personal and I wont go there here.

That makes me think of an old saying. "Vegetarian is an old Indian word for bad hunter"

 

[IndyDave1776]

That makes me think of an old saying. "Vegetarian is an old Indian word for bad hunter"

It fits perfectly. We seem to be surrounded by imbeciles who repudiate their own ineptitude or unwillingness to prepare by declaring those who do morally deficient by virtue of being sufficiently industrious to have preparation when those who did not sacrifice for the future do not.

I have no doubt that most of us would stand in one accord asking those people how the hell we are morally lacking by possessing the things we worked for, produced, or acquired with the money we earned while they wasted their time, effort, and money on other things while making fun of us for seeing the handwriting on the wall when they didn't.

 

[Woodrow]

Will gold and silver be valuable at the end of the world, or are we to assume that the ship will eventually right itself, and we are to be wealthy once things are back to normal?

 

[pudly]

Just check the many ammo hoarding/gouging threads for a reality check on "standing in one accord".

 

[IndyDave1776]

Will gold and silver be valuable at the end of the world, or are we to assume that the ship will eventually right itself, and we are to be wealthy once things are back to normal?

One reference (quoting of which is prohibited on INGO) says that they will be of so little value that people will throw both in the streets.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Just check the many ammo hoarding/gouging threads for a reality check on "standing in one accord".

Sorry about the ambiguity. I was referring to those of us who prepare.

 

[Trigger Time]

They've passed laws that prevent merchants from doing this in states with disasters. Take as old as time though.
If your planning on taking advantage of the hungry helpless masses then you'd better have the firepower to back you up as a deterrent.
I find it disgusting but I won't be anywhere near it.

 

[IndyDave1776]

They've passed laws that prevent merchants from doing this in states with disasters. Take as old as time though.
If your planning on taking advantage of the hungry helpless masses then you'd better have the firepower to back you up as a deterrent.
I find it disgusting but I won't be anywhere near it.

Interesting answer, but it seems to require a bit of clarification. First, I, for one, would not be setting up shop on the statehouse lawn or taking over an empty shopping mall, but would not expect to be in the middle of a completely depopulated area in spite of it being rural. Second, during an honest to goodness SHTF the law will be completely irrelevant. Third, I fail to see where declining to give away supplies which represent a great deal of work and sacrifice gratis qualifies as 'taking advantage' of the hungry and helpless. One would hope they could offer something of value in exchange for what they wish to receive, be it tangible assets or work. Ideally, in the course of offering work in exchange for supplies, they would learn how to be self-sufficient themselves. If you aren't following, read or watch Ayn Rand's treatment of the root of money via the character Francisco d'Anconia.

The Root of Money (Atlas Shrugged Part 2) - YouTube

 

[Trigger Time]

I think I took it the right way. I think your trying to cover up some of the smell of it

for clarification I only read the ops post and no others so I'm only replying to it in the above

 

[IndyDave1776]

I think I took it the right way. I think your trying to cover up some of the smell of it

for clarification I only read the ops post and no others so I'm only replying to it in the above

I think not. Please give us a few straight answers: Do you or do you not believe we are entitled to the property for which we have worked? Do you or do you not believe that others who have enjoyed the fruit of their own labor as they earned it and are caught empty handed are entitled to the supplies possessed by those who sacrificed while these people were not sacrificing for future uncertainty? Do you think that those who have subsisted on public money (i.e., that forcibly taken from those of us who work) are entitled to continue living on the largess of those who produce and possess? Should I, in the event of being able to continue producing under SHTF circumstances, give the product of my labor away without any expectation of the recipients to participate in the labor of producing such goods? Do you think I should put my own family in a position of doing without because of people who didn't give a f**k about what could happen until it is too late?

I will also point out that I have seen times in which I gave more of my income to those in need than I kept for myself. Can you honestly say that?

How can you declare my position wrong unless you are a damned socialist/communist?

 

[Trigger Time]

Whatever man. Get a mirror and spew it to yourself. Guys like you are why I don't even visit this section much anymore

 

[IndyDave1776]

Whatever man. Get a mirror and spew it to yourself. Guys like you are why I don't even visit this section much anymore

Apparently you disregarded the questions I raised (followed by an ad hominem) because you do not have viable answers. Thank you for proving my point.

 

[metaldog]

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