Heck, even INGO shuns questioning the narrative these days...
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I read much of what is on x as declarations.
Really, right now hours later nobody knows s***. It will take weeks or months to actually develop a root cause and determine culpability.
Two in particular general flynn, and Laura loomer to me have lost a lot of respect. To jump from a ship hitting a bridge to speculation that terrorism and cyber terrorism was involved is a bridge too far.
In most cases the simplest most straightforward answer is probably closer to the eventual truth. A ship with a history of mechanical / electrical failure has a failure at a critical time while transiting a relatively restrictive channel. It hits a bridge which somehow failed to include in it's design pier protecting dolphins.
There is no conspiracy in any of the above. It is simply the confluence of a bunch of really s***** coincidences.
This reminds me of a discussion with a Boeing training engineer circa 2000. He's going over the failure modes for auto throttle, and the FIM has you changing the autothrottle computer for everything. I simply asked, what is the probability of the computer failing versus rig errors or LVDT failure? He looked at me like an owl. The reality of it was the MTBF of the computer by shop records was an order of magnitude better than the FIM would suggest.
In other words the engineers who had written the FIM had chosen a failure rate for the computer that was far higher than the actual failure rate of system integration or subcomponents.
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I did try to phrase that in a way so as not to imply that I was referring to anything you have said/believe.
I haven't said that it wasn't a terror attack. I have said that, thus far, there is no evidence that it was or could have been a terrorist attack. As for "government explanations": I'm not aware of any explanations yet stated by the government (or by MSM, etc.)?
What narrative? Since when, and by whom, is there an official narrative? NTSB hasn't even had the chance to get on the ship yet, last I knew. How can there possibly be a narrative?
Unless they were an evil genius and wanted to make it look like an accident so they could do it several times before we caught on?
Not purple intentionally, but I dont really think that is the answer either.
A smart terrorist would do the same thing at the same time at multiple choke-point locations. Something like this is way too high-visibility to do "test" runs.
(And maybe Mayor Pete, instead of decrying racist overpasses, can look into seeing where similarly vulnerable bridges need dolphins installed...)
I encourage folks to do their own homework and find their own conclusions.
I will simply note, state has a long and consistent record of dishonesty, lying, corruption, and incompetency. That statement is not specific to nor is it limited to state's statements or actions involving this event.
I will simply note, state has a long and consistent record of dishonesty, lying, corruption, and incompetency. That statement is not specific to nor is it limited to state's statements or actions involving this event.
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More info and conjecture here:
www.zerohedge.com
Investigators Probe 'Dirty Fuel' In Baltimore Container Ship Disaster Amid Mid-Atlantic Supply Chain Crisis | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
Amen!
Simplest answer: dirty fuel and the ship loses power. Drops anchor but at 8-9 knots the ship ain't stopping (the Ship Captain on Jesse Waters said at 1-2 knots the anchor would've stopped it.) Anchor being dropped caused the direction change.
To make all this happen is Bond-Villain level evil, or a series of events that lead to tragedy.
A couple tanker trucks and thermite grenades would require much less planning.
To make all this happen is Bond-Villain level evil, or a series of events that lead to tragedy.
A couple tanker trucks and thermite grenades would require much less planning.
They were out calling it an accident before the damn black box was off the ship...
I have learned that dolphins are way more badass than I thought if they can stop cargo ships from crashing into bridges. I mean, I knew they were intelligent but damn, that's impressive! 
I agree, and I'm not gonna come outright and say this was done on purpose like a conspiracy type... however... in the world we live in these days... I'm not gonna say it wasn't either.
I'd like to withhold judgement until I know more... but I'm also not quite sure I can trust any reports that will be forthcoming either. Sadly, that's just where we're at right now. Unless I got a buddy on the responding NTSB team (and I don't) I just figure I'll never really know the whole story other than the damn ship hit the bridge.
I mean, that last presidential election was kinda some "Bond-Villain level evil" too, and it's looking like this one is shaping up to be pretty much more of the same. It's easy to see why a lot of people are jumping on the "bad guys did it" band wagon so quickly. I'm not gonna blame anybody who has those kind of thoughts at this point. I'm almost there myself.
Seems like being obvious about it is a core requirement.terrorism
noun
- the unlawful use of violence or threats to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or government, with the goal of furthering political, social, or ideological objectives.
- the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism.
- a terrorist method of governing or of resisting a government.
- intimidation or coercion by instilling fear.
Ok, maybe only a select have 2. I watched a documentary on ships and they showed a newly built monster cargo ship for Maersk being slid into the water. It had 2 propellers.
