Four Minneapolis officers fired after death of black man

[Hatin Since 87]

It is a bit of a commute. Hopefully they won't steal a fleet of IndyGo buses or Postal vehicles and caravan out here. My roof is too steep to go Rooftop Korean, or Rooftop German/Irish Hoosier for that matter.

As soon as the first shots were fired they would flee. I don’t see them being dumb enough to come into an area that will meet them with force. If they were smart they’d stay in the city where the mayor is willing to allow them to run free. As soon as they head into AR country people will not sit back and let them destroy their lives without resistance. I hope it doesn’t come to that, because I actually agree with their cause, just disagree with their actions to express the cause.

Also, if they start rioting here in mooresville, I’m heading to Lowe’s for a new riding mower! I imagine Lowe’s will still have plenty of product left untouched.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

It is a bit of a commute. Hopefully they won't steal a fleet of IndyGo buses or Postal vehicles and caravan out here. My roof is too steep to go Rooftop Korean, or Rooftop German/Irish Hoosier for that matter.

I don't think it would make it even as far as my side of town (about 5 miles south of the circle), but more and more I'm appreciating the way Dad built our house. Bedford stone over cinderblock, with the big windows facing the back yard, and the small windows facing the street.

 

[Alpo]

As soon as the first shots were fired they would flee. I don’t see them being dumb enough to come into an area that will meet them with force. If they were smart they’d stay in the city where the mayor is willing to allow them to run free. As soon as they head into AR country people will not sit back and let them destroy their lives without resistance. I hope it doesn’t come to that, because I actually agree with their cause, just disagree with their actions to express the cause.

Also, if they start rioting here in mooresville, I’m heading to Lowe’s for a new riding mower! I imagine Lowe’s will still have plenty of product left untouched.

If they are fleeing after you shoot, you ain't leadin' enough.

 

[bwframe]

We should keep it classy in here folks.

We may have heathens rioting, but we should be careful of the way we categorize protesters and even ourselves through this.

Lots of folks reading this. We don't need blankets thrown over "all of them" or "all of us."

 

[BigRed]

Tucker Carlson: Our leaders have sided with the agents of chaos – we're told crimes of the mob are our fault

This is spot on.

Well put.

I'll only add that .gov is not any better than these thugs. In fact, .gov has taken more of my property and destroyed more of my liberty than any thug in these scenes we are seeing in these videos and reports.

 

[MCgrease08]

[video=youtube_share;V95ZgOrgmq4]http://youtu.be/V95ZgOrgmq4[/video]

Matt Christianson is so good at quickly drilling right into the heart of these issues. He's like a lazer beam of logic.

 

[MCgrease08]

Well put.

I'll only add that .gov is not any better than these thugs. In fact, .gov has taken more of my property and destroyed more of my liberty than any thug in these scenes we are seeing in these videos and reports.

I have the same arguments with my liberal friends and family all the time. I ask them, if the government is terrible, police are brutal, Trump is a facist, and white supremacy is systemic, why would you want to continue to prop up that system and give it more power?

They never have an answer.

 

[Alpo]

On the plus side, SpaceX's Falcon 9 launched successfully today.

[video=youtube_share;W36QKRS_t5k]http://youtu.be/W36QKRS_t5k[/video]

 

[MCgrease08]

And there is a thread for that.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...acex-launch-astronauts-space-live-stream.html

 

[BigRed]

I have the same arguments with my liberal friends and family all the time. I ask them, if the government is terrible, police are brutal, Trump is a facist, and white supremacy is systemic, why would you want to continue to prop up that system and give it more power?

They never have an answer.

Excellent question for "progressives".

 

[Alpo]

And there is a thread for that.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...acex-launch-astronauts-space-live-stream.html

There's a thread for politics too, amigo.

I was attempting to let everyone take a breather.

 

[Tombs]

Excellent question for "progressives".

Like I try to explain to folks, progressivism and capitalism suffer from the exact same philosophical fault.

There's no end point for the ideology.

Once all major goals have been accomplished, new goals must be invented for the survival of the ideology. Those new goals end up becoming more and more incomprehensible and radical, as there's nothing reasonable left for the ideology to accomplish. Luckily the US found a happy way to balance capitalism out, but nations like China have been pedal to the metal with it.

These riots are just an extension of progressives having nothing noble left to fight for.

 

[bwframe]

Government is what we make it.

We are certainly getting a lot of that back in our face right now aren't we?

 

[Route 45]

Would this not solve everyone's problem? Pick a state, I'll vote for California but New York would be fine as well. Turn this state over to African Americans to occupy, govern, maintain and police. Same .gov benefits as all of our other states. How would that work out? Should be a thriving productive situation in no time , correct? Please discuss.

 

[Tombs]

Would this not solve everyone's problem? Pick a state, I'll vote for California but New York would be fine as well. Turn this state over to African Americans to occupy, govern, maintain and police. Same .gov benefits as all of our other states. How would that work out? Should be a thriving productive situation in no time , correct? Please discuss.

The founder of the original american nazi party advocated doing this, except with southern states.

 

[churchmouse]

Like I try to explain to folks, progressivism and capitalism suffer from the exact same philosophical fault.

There's no end point for the ideology.

Once all major goals have been accomplished, new goals must be invented for the survival of the ideology. Those new goals end up becoming more and more incomprehensible and radical, as there's nothing reasonable left for the ideology to accomplish. Luckily the US found a happy way to balance capitalism out, but nations like China have been pedal to the metal with it.

These riots are just an extension of progressives having nothing noble left to fight for.

Winning.....+10

 

[churchmouse]

We should keep it classy in here folks.

We may have heathens rioting, but we should be careful of the way we categorize protesters and even ourselves through this.

Lots of folks reading this. We don't need blankets thrown over "all of them" or "all of us."

Winning...…..

 

[foszoe]

While I am not a liberal, I will attempt an answer.

Short version. Government is addictive.

Long Version.

Most conservatives I know are mad at the government because the government takes stuff from us as BigRed stated. They take our money and property. Most conservatives I know tend to live in more rural areas and actually own stuff. While there are plenty of maps showing where the democrats live. We see them on this site. When I have conversations with conservatives, they are not just upset that their stuff is taken it usually follows that that stuff is then given to someone who didn't earn it through a welfare state that is out of control.

Most of the liberals live in more urban environments. Most of them don't have stuff. Sure there are exceptions, but those exceptions are probably not the ones we are seeing in the streets. They are upset because the government is not giving them enough for what they view as injustices to them by the rich who have denied them to opportunity to get ahead through systemic oppression and they view the police as the enforcers of that oppression. They have been the most affected by COVID not just in deaths but also in economic loss because the lower paying jobs are not coming back.

The conversations among rich liberals seems to be they now wish to move to the suburbs. If that occurs, then there will be even more pressure on inner cities as more rot sets in. They look to the government also to right the wrongs of the past. They believe Trump is a fascist, and all the other things. They just have money and things.

For both sets of liberals the problem with the government is the opposite side of the coin than conservatives. The government is not taking enough stuff fast enough.

This is going to get much worse before it gets better.

I have the same arguments with my liberal friends and family all the time. I ask them, if the government is terrible, police are brutal, Trump is a facist, and white supremacy is systemic, why would you want to continue to prop up that system and give it more power?

They never have an answer.

 

[KellyinAvon]

I don't think it would make it even as far as my side of town (about 5 miles south of the circle), but more and more I'm appreciating the way Dad built our house. Bedford stone over cinderblock, with the big windows facing the back yard, and the small windows facing the street.

Hhhhmmmmm, sounds well planned.

 

[ArcadiaGP]