As a newb to shooting sports, I understand the question. I have thought that myself...but for different reasons. I don't like leaving live rounds on the ground because if someone steps on a round just right, I don't want it going off.
Always surprised me that stomping live ammo into rocks does not cause problems at USPSA matches. Toward the end of a large match there might be 20-30 rounds or so spread about on a stage from folks clearing misfeeds (mainly pcc) and etc.. Young fast guys and old fat guys stomp all over them and I have never heard of one going off.
Yet, they fear that getting that last round out will detonate on their hand hence they just eject it and leave. I guess Ben Stoeger's hand will be blown up any time by now (and still waiting).
Always surprised me that stomping live ammo into rocks does not cause problems at USPSA matches. Toward the end of a large match there might be 20-30 rounds or so spread about on a stage from folks clearing misfeeds (mainly pcc) and etc.. Young fast guys and old fat guys stomp all over them and I have never heard of one going off.
Yet, they fear that getting that last round out will detonate on their hand hence they just eject it and leave. I guess Ben Stoeger's hand will be blown up any time by now (and still waiting).
I know two people who have sustained ".40 hand" while unloading their Limited gun. For the first, I was there and it was scary. The second I learned about via confession after the fact. Feel free to doubt it happens, but having been there and seen it, I do not doubt it.
Ok, for the sake of discussion. Those people who had their ammo explode, did they eject their round the proper way? Mechanically, an ejected round shouldn't detonate, unless ejected the wrong way. (recoil spring too strong the slide returned too early and caugt the but of the ammo and hit the primer in a weird angle) Or if it was handloaded, they loaded it in a way where the primer is way too deep and really sensitive to any rear pounding.
And if that is really the case, where, it'll just randomly explode, it would have been prevalent over the years of incidents like that happening. Yes, I'm not discounting it happens but when it did, it has to be an operator error, whether through the process of ejecting the round or how the round was reloaded. But is common not to admit that it is human error when it occurs.
just curious how you feel about hangfires or maybe they don’t happen either
weak extractor, no magazine so no round under the chambered round as it is pulled out. it slips down a little as the nose starts to cam out and ejector hits primer. even if extractor tension is good if you're doing it easy and for some reason it doesn't all happen in one smooth motion and the round doesn't eject all the way the slide partially closing can cause extractor or corner of slide to hit primer. It's not unheard of. you can go search enos and find great smiths like benny hill discussing this. sometimes it's a gun that needs some maintenance, sometimes the way it's handled, some times a little of both. As I said, the instances I'm aware of were 9 or 40 19/2011s. For guns designed around a 9mm like the cz/tangfo, probably the odds are a lot lower of it happening. Still prefer not to have my hand over or face near the port.
-rvb
Ok, for the sake of discussion. Those people who had their ammo explode, did they eject their round the proper way? Mechanically, an ejected round shouldn't detonate, unless ejected the wrong way. (recoil spring too strong the slide returned too early and caugt the but of the ammo and hit the primer in a weird angle) Or if it was handloaded, they loaded it in a way where the primer is way too deep and really sensitive to any rear pounding or an overloaded/overcharged or very undercharged (someone has a theory about the latter).
And if that is really the case, where, it'll just randomly explode, it would have been prevalent over the years of incidents like that happening. Yes, I'm not discounting it happens but when it did, it has to be an operator error, whether through the process of ejecting the round or how the round was reloaded. But is common not to admit that it is human error when it occurs.
Sometimes it is little ants. They are attracted to gunpowder but go dormant inside loaded brass. When they feel the abrupt movement during unload and show clear they can startle and sometimes ignite the powder. This is where the term "fire ants" originated. Most people don't know this.
Sometimes it is little ants. They are attracted to gunpowder but go dormant inside loaded brass. When they feel the abrupt movement during unload and show clear they can startle and sometimes ignite the powder. This is where the term "fire ants" originated. Most people don't know this.
What about **** ants?
... and then after the round goes off unexpectedly you feel the pee running down your leg. All because of the ants, hence the term **** ants. And now you know the rest of the story.
Why is it that most people just drop that ammo on the ground and not pick it back up? If you do that for every local match, you just wasted 6 ammo. If going to local matches 3-4 times, that's 18-24 ammo wasted per month. That's a full mag of ammo thrown away. I see this all the time. Makes me cringe.
So my question is, why waste that much ammo?