DeSantis Signs Law Requiring Students To Learn ‘Evils Of Communism,’ ‘Real Patriots’ Who Escaped It

[DadSmith]

The article posted is favorable, and doesn’t tell the full story.

Florida Gov signs law requiring students, faculty be asked their political beliefs

The law goes into effect July 1.

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College faculty and staff have to declare their political beliefs? Now think about that for a moment. Are you ok with the state compelling you to tell it what you believe? No one can think of how that could possibly be abused and used against you? That’s fascism. Like right out of Nazi Germany, fascism. I don’t like this AT ALL. If you don’t see the problem with this, ask yourself how you would feel, if a Democrat was forcing you to divulge your beliefs, outside of national security issues, in order to keep your job.

What are you talking about we use to hunt down and arrest communists and kick them our of the country or imprison them. That was up until the Democrats thought it was a great idea to allow communists to spew their disgusting doctrine. The only way to fix America is to outlaw the Marxist doctrine again.

 

[rob63]

I disagree, due to DeSantis's own words that mentioning the "indoctrination" of students and denying funds to universities. How does one even gauge that? Having a differing belief than the govt is being "indoctrinated," and may result in a penalty?

"How does one even gauge that?"

I think that is the point of taking the survey.

Considering the prices that schools charge, I suspect that they will discover that universities are a hotbed of capitalism. Nonetheless, the surveys would hardly be earth-shattering, likely just involve adding a few questions to something they already do. anyway.

 

[Kutnupe14]

What are you talking about we use to hunt down and arrest communists and kick them our of the country or imprison then. That was up until the Democrats thought it was a great idea to allow communists to spew their disgusting doctrine. The only way to fix America is to outlaw the Marxist doctrine again.

We did. That's fascism and 100% contrary to the US Constitution. I imagine that there are plenty of other members, hell, people in general that agree with you in saying we should outlaw "Marxist Doctrine." The scary thing, is you don't know why that's a problem.

 

[DadSmith]

I disagree, due to DeSantis's own words that mentioning the "indoctrination" of students and denying funds to universities. How does one even gauge that? Having a differing belief than the govt is being "indoctrinated," and may result in a penalty?

The current government leadership is leftist leaning so it's not having a different belief than our government right now. If you are anti Marxist, Communist, or socialism you have a different belief than our current government leadership at this point in our history.

 

[IndyDave1776]

You bring up the one the issues I immediately thought of. How do you confirm anything that the students/faculty put in these surveys? Do you crosscheck with their friends, co-workers, children? In what way can you prove that they are being truthful? There's no incentive not to lie, and go along with your real beliefs. People's private thoughts are their own. The state has no business compelling people to tell them what they think. None.

What is your solution?

 

[Kutnupe14]

"How does one even gauge that?"

I think that is the point of taking the survey.

Considering the prices that schools charge, I suspect that they will discover that universities are a hotbed of capitalism. Nonetheless, the surveys would hardly be earth-shattering, likely just involve adding a few questions to something they already do. anyway.

I personally don't see any reason to comply. I'd probably just pick the answers I figured they wanted to hear, and that wouldn't make me a target.

 

[DadSmith]

We did. That's fascism and 100% contrary to the US Constitution. I imagine that there are plenty of other members, hell, people in general that agree with you in saying we should outlaw "Marxist Doctrine." The scary thing, is you don't know why that's a problem.

Yes because that doctrine and people spewing it are enemies of the constitution. Until democrats changed it to how wonderful communism is and allowed it.

So you think the FDR ran America was fascist?

 

[DadSmith]

I personally don't see any reason to comply. I'd probably just pick the answers I figured they wanted to hear, and that wouldn't make me a target.

If you are a Marxist you should be targeted and kicked out of the country or imprisoned like we use to do. It's time to put these traitors on the run or in the closet again.

 

[rob63]

I personally don't see any reason to comply. I'd probably just pick the answers I figured they wanted to hear, and that wouldn't make me a target.

I don't even know how you would be a target. You seem to be assuming that the gestapo would be taking names while the article just mentioned a survey, as in anonymous, representative sample size, you know, like a survey. Nonetheless, if you want to be worked up, don't let me stop you.

 

[KLB]

If you are a Marxist you should be targeted and kicked out of the country or imprisoned like we use to do. It's time to put these traitors on the run or in the closet again.

Being a "Marxist" does not make one a traitor. Your vision of this country is no better than the other side. You both want to punish those that disagree with you. Free speech be damned.

 

[DadSmith]

Being a "Marxist" does not make one a traitor. Your vision of this country is no better than the other side. You both want to punish those that disagree with you. Free speech be damned.

Yes it does a Marxist is an enemy of the constitution. Tell me how that doctrine is in line with our constitution? I just want to bring back the hunting down of Marxist like we use to do before we where brain washed into believing they have a right to spew their doctrine to destroy the country.

Spewing a doctrine that would destroy the constitution is not free speech. It's treason.

Marxism of any form is incompatible with our constitution.

Rejecting the Marxist version of the Constitution

The first rule of any Marxist revolution is that rules are fine if they advance the cause or cripple opponents. The rules can be discarded the minute they get in the way.

www.google.com

 

[KLB]

Yes it does a Marxist is an enemy of the constitution. Tell me how that doctrine is in line with our constitution? I just want to bring back the hunting down of Marxist like we use to do before were brain washed into believing they have a right to spew their doctrine to destroy the country.

Our Constitution grants the right to think what they want. They even have the right to try to change it, like any other citizen.

Our Constitution does not grant the right to hunt down those that think differently. At least in the time you are yearning for, they had the excuse that the ones they hunted might be spies for the USSR. You cannot say the same.

 

[DadSmith]

Our Constitution grants the right to think what they want. They even have the right to try to change it, like any other citizen.

Our Constitution does not grant the right to hunt down those that think differently. At least in the time you are yearning for, they had the excuse that the ones they hunted might be spies for the USSR. You cannot say the same.

You have been brainwashed if you think that.
Enemies of the constitution can be hunted down and imprisoned we did it for many years until leftist who are now exposed as Marxist in leadership changed the law to allow them to spew their Marxist doctrine. It was right around the time they did away with the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

How about the Communist control act of 1954?

 

[Kutnupe14]

I don't even know how you would be a target. You seem to be assuming that the gestapo would be taking names while the article just mentioned a survey, as in anonymous, representative sample size, you know, like a survey. Nonetheless, if you want to be worked up, don't let me stop you.

How do you require something that’s anonymous? As of now, that bill does nothing include that protection.

 

[NKBJ]

I think we should avoid the moral/religious aspect of this.

Not a snow ball's chance.

 

[jbombelli]

It turns out, Joe McCarthy was right on just about everything.

 

[rob63]

How do you require something that’s anonymous? As of now, that bill does nothing include that protection.

It also doesn’t require names either, so it’s just an assumption about how the schools would conduct the surveys.

You have to admit though, the Florida Gestapo would make for some great reality tv.

 

[DadSmith]

It turns out, Joe McCarthy was right on just about everything.

Yes he was. The Democrat party was infiltrated back then. We have people defending Marxists right here in this thread. Shows you how the years of propaganda is paying off for the Chinese and the old Soviet Union.

 

[maxipum]

Being a "Marxist" does not make one a traitor. Your vision of this country is no better than the other side. You both want to punish those that disagree with you. Free speech be damned.

Not quite that simple, these people have made it clear they intend to destroy the country as we know it and they are using our own freedoms to do it. Some of the comments seem to suggest the “ welp nothing we can do about it”doctrine is strong in some here. I will not accept that no sir.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Being a "Marxist" does not make one a traitor. Your vision of this country is no better than the other side. You both want to punish those that disagree with you. Free speech be damned.

Marxism and the Constitution are mutually exclusive. You may want to consider that before declaring that our ideas are no better.