Daylight Saving Time

[foszoe]

The whole article claims that the one-hour time change is detrimental, but the next to last line says, "For something as insignificant as a one-hour time change?" Is it detrimental or insignificant?

Every Sunday I get up an hour earlier than my regular time, so that I can get to church on time. If I am tired in the afternoon I take a nap. It does not take several days to recover.

You are one of the lucky ones. Takes me 8 months

 

[BugI02]

STRAWMAN!

Heck this guy just plagiarized this thread.

He has no new ideas, none. Just the same ole BS put out to get clicks.

“Americans don’t get more daylight. Plants don’t enjoy an extra hour of sunshine. As the Transportation Department’s 1974 study admitted, “DST does not affect the actual number of hours of darkness during a 24-hour period.” And if the hours of darkness are not affected, neither are their counterparts.”

Could someone show me a serious article that makes the author believes that DST creates more daylight? “That actual the number of hours of hours of darkness” decrease and light increases?

Changing clocks does not change science or the amount of light, it is about shifting the typical workday, a social construct, to earlier in the the light period we have thereby leaving more of the available light after that workday or even more workday for some.

You keep wanting to make this about the actual changing of the clocks when it is about the results of such a mandate. A significant number of people don't want artificial daylight at what should be a time of darkness and/or artificial darkness that at what should be a time of light

So it becomes a worthless ritual leading to an undesirable state of affairs

 

[Quiet Observer]

You keep wanting to make this about the actual changing of the clocks when it is about the results of such a mandate. A significant number of people don't want artificial daylight at what should be a time of darkness and/or artificial darkness that at what should be a time of light

So it becomes a worthless ritual leading to an undesirable state of affairs

You do not turn on any lights in your house after sunset, regardless of the time of year? If you drive at night, you do not want any streetlights and do not use your headlights?

 

[Ingomike]

You keep wanting to make this about the actual changing of the clocks when it is about the results of such a mandate. A significant number of people don't want artificial daylight at what should be a time of darkness and/or artificial darkness that at what should be a time of light

So it becomes a worthless ritual leading to an undesirable state of affairs

And yet a plurality does not exist to change it to what you describe as a significant number of people do want…

 

[BugI02]

You do not turn on any lights in your house after sunset, regardless of the time of year? If you drive at night, you do not want any streetlights and do not use your headlights?

Flip that script

If you want more light after natural sunset, why not just turn on lights instead of rearrange natural time

If you want it dark later in the morning, they make lined curtains - no need to distort the natural order

 

[BugI02]

And yet a plurality does not exist to change it to what you describe as a significant number of people do want…

Why would someone, whose position is also only supported by a plurality, use the fact that the alternate position is not supported by a majority as an implied criticism - seems inconsistent

 

[Ingomike]

Why would someone, whose position is also only supported by a plurality, use the fact that the alternate position is not supported by a majority as an implied criticism - seems inconsistent

There apparently was when originally passed…

 

[BugI02]

There apparently was when originally passed…

Wartime

There apparently was a majority in favor of invading Iraq at one time, also

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[KLB]

There apparently was when originally passed…

Can you show something to back that up? The .gov doing something does not mean a majority of citizens want it.

 

[Quiet Observer]

Flip that script

If you want more light after natural sunset, why not just turn on lights instead of rearrange natural time

If you want it dark later in the morning, they make lined curtains - no need to distort the natural order

Clocks do not change "natural time" or order. No device can. Clocks are just a measuring or coordinating device for broad societal activity. As others have noted, when it is noon, the sun is not over the same spot in all parts of a time zone. Sun noon is different in New York and Indianapolis.

 

[Ingomike]

Can you show something to back that up? The .gov doing something does not mean a majority of citizens want it.

And there was no major outcry when it was updated in 2007…

 

[WebSnyper]

I was traveling during the time change and didnt get to post this... Just now getting caught up on my lost hour. Why don't they do the spring forward Monday in the middle of the day.

 

[jkaetz]

And there was no major outcry when it was updated in 2007…

I cried... DST had its purpose, but that purpose has long sense passed. IMO we should stick with the original standard or update the standard.

 

[KLB]

And there was no major outcry when it was updated in 2007…

I'll take that as a no.

 

[Sigblitz]

Does anyone really know what time it is?

 

[Sigblitz]

Clocks do not change "natural time" or order. No device can. Clocks are just a measuring or coordinating device for broad societal activity. As others have noted, when it is noon, the sun is not over the same spot in all parts of a time zone. Sun noon is different in New York and Indianapolis.

And, the warmest part of the day is around 4:00, after the sun heats everything up.

 

[BugI02]

Does anyone really know what time it is?

These guys do

 

[Ingomike]

I'll take that as a no.

So there obviously must be enough support to pass it and extend it or it would not have happened. Even if corporate supporters want it for something like this, that directly impacts people, there usually is some support from the people.

It is laughable how INGO is such a pocket of anti DST and just cannot believe a lot of others love it.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Does anyone really know what time it is?

Tool time!

 

[KLB]

So there obviously must be enough support to pass it and extend it or it would not have happened. Even if corporate supporters want it for something like this, that directly impacts people, there usually is some support from the people.

It is laughable how INGO is such a pocket of anti DST and just cannot believe a lot of others love it.

Then show your work. The laughable thing is how you think that the .gov actually gave two s about what the people wanted.

I don't know anyone that likes changing the clocks. Period. I have yet to ask anyone and have them answer, yes they like changing the clocks. You always focus on your own love of DST, and continue to ignore that most people just want to stop changing the clocks.

I'd really like to know why the House still refuses to take up the bill to make DST permanent. The Senate passed it unanimously. 19 states have passed bills to do so if the Fed ever changes the law. 17 more have bills submitted to be voted on.

Almost every single US state has considered laws to abolish daylight-saving time

Polls show that more than 62% of Americans are in favor of doing away with daylight-savings time and almost every state is considering a law to do it.

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