Today this is the only way.....
Feel the warmth from here!Today this is the only way.....
Today this is the only way.....
Feel the warmth from here!Today this is the only way.....
Nice place! What about an out door boiler?Built this in Alaska. New wood stove prices up there are very expensive. Plan on buying my stove down here and hauling it up next year.
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I’m positive this guy didn’t burn trash. Maybe this train that burns the same coal from the same mine is burning trash too?In a phone interview before the lawsuit was filed, Cody Sanders denied that he burns anything but wood and coal.
In other news, Cody works at a nearby plant that makes PVC dimensional lumber and is often seen carting truckloads of scrap "wood" home.
OK, so I added that second line.
But seriously, It sounds like the guy has absolutely zero clue how to run his boiler, or really is burning stuff besides coal and wood. The latter is my guess. Because fuel aint cheap, and when you have lots of burnable consumables packaging, why not? its a win-win. I get heat and I dont have to pay for trash service.
Colorado doesn’t have a law on the books like this. The law is federal and it has been on the books awhile without enforcement. This was the first case of attempted enforcement that I know of. It Doesn’t mean they won’t come for you next. To try and tell a rancher how he can heat his home seems a bit over the top to me. God didn’t put coal on this earth to give us diamonds. He gave us a source of fuel.Again, my comment was specifically about ENFORCEMENT of federal laws. Not about whether similar state laws are being enforced elsewhere, or whether federal laws exist in the first place. What federal laws are being enforced against burning wood in Indiana? A law is useless without enforcement. Federal agencies won’t be coming to your house because you have a chimney. Local LE doesn’t enforce federal laws. Without Indiana having something on the books about this, who does that leave to make these laws have meaning? My point is people are getting keyed up about a moot point.
Apples and oranges. Those old horses arent optimized for a complete, clean burn. Quite the contrary; The steam system forces drafting with steam pressure. This causes incomplete burns and black smoke as seen above. That black smoke if left in the firebox to naturally draft would combust and exit the stack with much less color.
Coal fired power plants have million dollar scrubbers that clean the air now. This 10k boiler does not. This is also soft coal that burns less clean than the hard coal back east from PA. I know for a fact there has never been one once of trash burned in this boiler. The neighbor was a liberal idiot that doesn’t like coal. The new neighbors that bought his house for 200k less than it was worth and have never complained about the coal or the 100 pigs next to his house. All fires that sit at idle will smoke on first fire up and until they get going again. Once going it burns relatively clean. Have you not seen smoke bellowing out of a house chimney before? A outdoor boiler starts a fire every time the water temp drops 5 degrees. It then heats the water back to temp and sits at idle till the fan kicks in and starts it againApples and oranges. Those old horses arent optimized for a complete, clean burn. Quite the contrary; The steam system forces drafting with steam pressure. This causes incomplete burns and black smoke as seen above. That black smoke if left in the firebox to naturally draft would combust and exit the stack with much less color.
When was the last time you saw a coal fired power plant belching black smoke like that? And coal smoke doesnt have the color and specific odor the neighbors complain about. I have a neighbor that burns garbage, and as a kid in the country I burned garbage back in the day. I understand the smell they are talking about. Its a unique smell.
But my sarcasm aside, even coal can be optimized with proper venting and flue control.
Look at the Perry K steam generating plant down town Indy. You never see the stacks belching nasty on that facility. The boilers are 7 story's tall and there are several of them in the building. The coal reduced to a sine powder and blown in with fan forced air much like a fuel oil burner. The coal ignites and burns very intensely but does not produce the smoke. The ash is washed down to the bottom of the stacks and is much like a paste. Removed by tanker trucks and taken off to who knows where. It is actually a very clean operation.Apples and oranges. Those old horses arent optimized for a complete, clean burn. Quite the contrary; The steam system forces drafting with steam pressure. This causes incomplete burns and black smoke as seen above. That black smoke if left in the firebox to naturally draft would combust and exit the stack with much less color.
When was the last time you saw a coal fired power plant belching black smoke like that? And coal smoke doesnt have the color and specific odor the neighbors complain about. I have a neighbor that burns garbage, and as a kid in the country I burned garbage back in the day. I understand the smell they are talking about. Its a unique smell.
But my sarcasm aside, even coal can be optimized with proper venting and flue control.
This is pretty close. The fly ash (the stuff that goes out the flue) actually never gets to the stack anymore. It is removed in the FGD process, the byproduct is what makes gypsum for drywall (we send ours to Georgia-Pacific) it's also used in some concrete/cement. I wouldn't call it a clean operation by any means, but the flue gas is highly processed and has been for quite some time. The real issue is the slag waste and when the plants can't take all the product it takes up a lot of space in a land fill and ground contamination.Look at the Perry K steam generating plant down town Indy. You never see the stacks belching nasty on that facility. The boilers are 7 story's tall and there are several of them in the building. The coal reduced to a sine powder and blown in with fan forced air much like a fuel oil burner. The coal ignites and burns very intensely but does not produce the smoke. The ash is washed down to the bottom of the stacks and is much like a paste. Removed by tanker trucks and taken off to who knows where. It is actually a very clean operation.
But it came from the ground in the beginning ...???This is pretty close. The fly ash (the stuff that goes out the flue) actually never gets to the stack anymore. It is removed in the FGD process, the byproduct is what makes gypsum for drywall (we send ours to Georgia-Pacific) it's also used in some concrete/cement. I wouldn't call it a clean operation by any means, but the flue gas is highly processed and has been for quite some time. The real issue is the slag waste and when the plants can't take all the product it takes up a lot of space in a land fill and ground contamination.
Look at the Perry K steam generating plant down town Indy. You never see the stacks belching nasty on that facility. The boilers are 7 story's tall and there are several of them in the building. The coal reduced to a sine powder and blown in with fan forced air much like a fuel oil burner. The coal ignites and burns very intensely but does not produce the smoke. The ash is washed down to the bottom of the stacks and is much like a paste. Removed by tanker trucks and taken off to who knows where. It is actually a very clean operation.
Yeah, but not the surface of the ground. When the waste leaches into water sources it is an issue, particularly benzene IMO. Old holding ponds and landfill were unlined. People always talk about the flue because that is what they mostly seen, without understanding that what they are seeing has been manipulated to make it more pleasing. One of our plants uses a slightly different FGD process and the flue gas is almost invisible when at full operation.But it came from the ground in the beginning ...???
Hey I get it. I really do.
It was synthetic Gypsum. A lot of the industry had changed over to using it. With the decrease cost of NG, it has replaced coal almost everywhere now. This has caused the Gypsum companies to have to go back to mining and quarrying natural gypsum, which is more work and not as pure as the synthetic stuff was.This is pretty close. The fly ash (the stuff that goes out the flue) actually never gets to the stack anymore. It is removed in the FGD process, the byproduct is what makes gypsum for drywall (we send ours to Georgia-Pacific) it's also used in some concrete/cement. I wouldn't call it a clean operation by any means, but the flue gas is highly processed and has been for quite some time. The real issue is the slag waste and when the plants can't take all the product it takes up a lot of space in a land fill and ground contamination.