ATF Updates Form 4473

[Roadie]

Some interesting changes to the 4473. Among them:

Question 11.e: Added a warning statement regarding marijuana that has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where the transferee/buyer resides.

It specifically asks if you are a maryjane user, and clarifies that even if it is legal in your state, it is still against Federal law.
Thoughts?

BREAKING: ATF Updates Form 4473 'NICS Check' - The Firearm Blog

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Interesting. Thanks for posting, Roadie!

 

[Tactically Fat]

And hundreds upon hundreds of people will lie in the 4473, still, and nothing at all will change. Think there will be any kind of cross check between the 4473, that question's answer, and a person's purchasing proclivities in states like Colorado? That's IF they somehow track purchases (like they do pseudoephedrine).

In all reality, much ado about nothing. Again.

 

[Methane Herder]

I need to see your drivers license and here is a cup. The bathroom is towards the back on the right. Please hand the specimen to my MRO as you leave.


MH

 

[BogWalker]

Just clarifying before it becomes a court case. Clearing the confusion before it begins is a good move on the BATFE's part.

 

[Bennettjh]

Just clarifying before it becomes a court case. Clearing the confusion before it begins is a good move on the BATFE's part.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Just clarifying before it becomes a court case. Clearing the confusion before it begins is a good move on the BATFE's part.

It is a court case.

 

[BogWalker]

It is a court case.

Well guess they should have made the correction earlier.

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

Still don't care.

 

[Reagan40]

I'm not a marijuana fan, but it is a bit annoying that if a person smokes a joint, the second amendment is no longer a right for the , yet they can still get government aid/benefits (tax dollars) that are not a constitutional right.

 

[warthog]

please, people will lie like they have been since the 4473 has been filled out. People have been toking it up and buying guns for a long time and the only change now is there are state where you can get the smoke legally.

I am far more worried about the folks who should get counseling but don't because Obamacare will take away their rights before it can be seen if a person can be straightened out or not. That alone is probably causing people with minor issues, that can be helped with simple counseling or meds from even seeking the help. In some cases I am sure it gets worse for them until they finally decide to either end it all or go out for revenge... Between this and Reagan's closure of most of the Mental Health facilities putting more of these folks on the streets and homeless, I am sure this has had an impact on spree shootings far more than a buncha potheads.

 

[M67]

And this is a big deal how?

The new Form 4s and 1s have had this on them since 41F

 

[Roadie]

And this is a big deal how?

The new Form 4s and 1s have had this on them since 41F

Who said it was a "big deal"? Just sharing the info..

 

[daddymikey1975]

In michigan they cross check to see if the buyer also has the medical card. If they do, their transaction gets denied.

 

[ATM]

I'm not a marijuana fan, but it is a bit annoying that if a person smokes a joint, the second amendment is no longer a right for the , yet they can still get government aid/benefits (tax dollars) that are not a constitutional right.

2A still applies, this is simply a restriction on purchasing from a federally licensed dealer.

Buy your guns from another Indiana resident, it's nobody's business what you ingest.

 

[Gabriel]

Is this already on the 4473? I just bought a rifle a week ago and thought that the 4473 looked different, but I was out west when I bought it and figured it was just a different layout since I was in a different state.

 

[edporch]

As far as making marijuana legal for recreational use on the federal level, I don't foresee it happening.

The reason is, there's also a worldwide treaty that the USA is a part of that agrees to outlaw it.
So legalizing it on the federal level would require violating a treaty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Convention_on_Narcotic_Drugs

 

[TECKS]

They don't go after felons who try to purchase on a 4473, which is illegal. They just get denied. It's a crime federally to be under the influence and in possession of a firearm so legally they should be denied also. Doesn't make it right but thats the way federal laws work...