ATF Agent Shot

[Colt556]

I'm just glad they got this guy off the street. I'm sure I'll sleep a lot better just knowing he is dead and I have atf looking out for my safety.

Honey, was that a knock on the door? It’s 4 am!

 

[Colt556]

Honey, was that a knock on the door? It’s 4 am!

I wasn’t making fun of you, it’s in purple.

 

[HHollow]

News Article said: “Federal officials said one ATF agent was shot in the exchange and suffered a non-life-threatening wound.”

There is always the small chance the AFT agent by another alphabet boy (or gal or ?).

 

[Mongo59]

Am I the only one who would like to know what the headline would have read if the gunfire did not take place?

Remember, they did this because it made sense to them, not to you. Their idea of what an "unlicensed dealer" is changes almost every day depending on what they want it to be. It is not a stretch of the imagination to realize this could soon apply to anyone who has ever sold a firearm.

The ATF has become a government within the government as has the DOJ, FBI and the list grows. Non-elected officials determining and inflicting someone else's un-constitutional will on you while we all sit around like monkeys in the zoo arguing over when the next meal will be.

Meanwhile, the elected officials sit around bickering about it until interest is lost and it becomes the status quo. This ratcheting effect is tightening a noose around our necks and most seem to be amazed at how well they can tie a knot...

 

[BigRed]

I wasn’t making fun of you, it’s in purple.

I know...the scowl was not towards you.

 

[Colt556]

I know...the scowl was not towards you.

Copy

 

[DragonGunner]

News Article said: “Federal officials said one ATF agent was shot in the exchange and suffered a non-life-threatening wound.”

There is always the small chance the AFT agent by another alphabet boy (or gal or ?).

Probably shot himself.

 

[2tonic]

There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those that do not

That joke is so based.

 

[2tonic]

Is there really "rich" in Indiana?

Oprah lived here for a while.

 

[Colt556]

Oprah lived here for a while.

You sometimes find rich in the strangest of places.

 

[2tonic]

Just because he was making $250.00+ a year doesn't mean he wasn't living like he earned $350,000

New math?

No, translation: he had a 250,000 salary on the table, and made 100,000 under the table.

Don't know what his wife did, she might have brought even more to the table. $100K flippin guns is flippin a whole lotta guns. That's on top of the probably 50-55 hours/week at his airport gig... and the time spent driving around bad neighborhoods in the company vehicle. Not that the surveillance observed him doing anything illegal or even suspicious while driving through the bad neighborhoods. Oh yeah, drove recklessly... like everyone else in Little Rock.

There is no level of means which you can possess, that cannot be lived beyond.

So the deceased made 250k, lived like he made 350k.
Feds wanna know where the extra cake is coming from.
If the government worked like it should, he would gave been having a "come to Jesus" meeting with the IRS. If they ascertained the source was firearm sales, legitimate or otherwise, then the ATF lads could arrange an afterwork get together to determine whether the legal parameters that apply had been violated.
No raids, no shooting, no fatalities.

 

[Creedmoor]

There is no level of means which you can possess, that cannot be lived beyond.

So the deceased made 250k, lived like he made 350k.
Feds wanna know where the extra cake is coming from.
If the government worked like it should, he would gave been having a "come to Jesus" meeting with the IRS. If they ascertained the source was firearm sales, legitimate or otherwise, then the ATF lads could arrange an afterwork get together to determine whether the legal parameters that apply had been violated.
No raids, no shooting, no fatalities.

I'm going to guess that early morning wasn't the first meeting those two had together.

 

[Sigblitz]

Canada police receive a photograph of firearms from a confidential informant. Canada. Confidential informant. An investigative trace was made on serial numbers. Trace shows he bought multiple guns.

Guy gets pulled over with marijuana. Gun is confiscated.

Another guy gets pulled over with marijuana. Gun is confiscated.

And a third with marijuana. Gun is confiscated. This one is prohibited. They try to get him to pinch the seller. Third guy says seller might consider a straw purchase, but no evidence of a straw buy in warrant.
Mom let's them go through his phone, showing prohibited possessor bought a few more.

Stolen gun confiscated during a shake down in Commifornia. It once went through the hands of the guy.

Made undercover buys. Tailed him. Got his phone records. Tracked his car.

This started with a photo in Canada. Why is that important to the warrant?

 

[Sigblitz]

There's no actual gun in the possession of Canada police to get an investigation going. It's a photograph from an unnamed source.

 

[Cameramonkey]

This started with a photo in Canada. Why is that important to the warrant?

Because the gun serial traced back to the deceased. Which was one of many.

There is no level of means which you can possess, that cannot be lived beyond.

So the deceased made 250k, lived like he made 350k.
Feds wanna know where the extra cake is coming from.
If the government worked like it should, he would gave been having a "come to Jesus" meeting with the IRS. If they ascertained the source was firearm sales, legitimate or otherwise, then the ATF lads could arrange an afterwork get together to determine whether the legal parameters that apply had been violated.
No raids, no shooting, no fatalities.

You mean nail him for tax evasion? Good enough for Capone!

 

[INgunowner]

I bought a gun today...
If I sell a gun tomorrow,
Do I deserve to die?

 

[Cameramonkey]

I bought a gun today...
If I sell a gun tomorrow,
Do I deserve to die?

Depends.

 

[JTScribe]

 

[Creedmoor]

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I hope your family and you aren't in that house when the 175lbs has that chemical reaction. For it will be Spectacular...

 

[2tonic]

You mean nail him for tax evasion? Good enough for Capone!

Well, what I really mean is that if the facts are that the subjects spending egregiously exceeds his income, and the suspicion is he dabbles in weapon sales, then that is indeed an IRS matter.

If the T-men turn up evidence of "less than scrupulous" vetting of customers, then it becomes an ATF matter, and they can have a civilized, if still unexpected, meeting with the subject, without putting rounds downrange.
Basically I'm saying someone screwed the pooch on this one.