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[Tanfodude]

From a leftist that says he used to be against guns

A Liberal Weighs the Costs and Benefits of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms - The Truth About Guns

&#9664Previous Post Next Post▶ As a young man I regarded the second amendment as the founders’ biggest blunder. As we head into 2022, my position has flipped — I now believe history may well come to regard it as the most far-sighted thing the founders did, not in spite of its vagueness, but...

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Here's more https://unherd.com/2021/11/the-liberal-case-for-gun-ownership/?s=09

 

[2A_Tom]

Here's more https://unherd.com/2021/11/the-liberal-case-for-gun-ownership/?s=09

I seldom read long articles in full, but this one is worth it.

The author is very honest, although I do not agree with him 100%, I give him a strong B+.

Edit, A-

 

[Bugzilla]

I seldom read long articles in full, but this one is worth it.

The author is very honest, although I do not agree with him 100%, I give him a strong B+.

Edit, A-

This and Actaeon277’s articles almost hint that even liberals are beginning to get fed up with liberal policies, or the possible outcomes of liberal policies.

 

[2A_Tom]

When the riot comes to their own door, it causes them to pause...

They are being lumped in with conservatives even when they bow and renounce their whiteness.

It scares some of them.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Here's more https://unherd.com/2021/11/the-liberal-case-for-gun-ownership/?s=09

And here we have it. The significant emotional experience (props to Dr Massey) that caused the writer to completely change his views on RKBA and the 2A.

For my part, I don’t believe it. In fact, I believe I know better, both as a scholar and as someone who was falsely accused of racism and hunted in my own neighbourhood — with the police withdrawn in a foolish attempt to appease the mob.

Then there's this. I have to agree with @2A_Tom that the guy gets it, but doesn't. Oh well, a work in progress that's a lot closer to INGO on 2A views than the faculty lounge.

The second reason an armed population might succeed against the military-gone-rogue is that it is exceedingly unlikely the entire military would accept immoral orders. Either they would divide over the question, and the armed populace would end up fighting alongside the hopefully large portion of the military who remained loyal to the Constitution and their fellow citizens. Or those who would naturally resist immoral orders would have been purged from the uniformed ranks under some pretext that discovers and discharges those with independent minds, returning these non-compliant souls home to their well-armed families and neighbourhoods. Either way, private gun ownership might well prove decisive in a periodic contest between “patriots and tyrants”.

 

[jamil]

This and Actaeon277’s articles almost hint that even liberals are beginning to get fed up with liberal policies, or the possible outcomes of liberal policies.

I think that’s true, but underlying it, what I think is going on, we kive in a very polarized social universe now. And so things are becoming more black and white for people. People are self-sorting into two main groups where the things that formerly separated them ideologically, are suddenly not as important as the issues they care about most.

The two groups of people seem to be sorting themselves into a primarily collective or individual priority. That priority overrides a lot of differences between conservatives and moderate left. And since those groups now have some common ground, they can have reasonable discussions about their other political beliefs too.

So maybe now, Bret Weinstein became more open to considering the arguments in favor of gun rights. And the people on the right who hear him speak about many of the issues important to him as a progressive, can listen to his reasoning in a more intellectually honest way.

I think that means that the individual minded people on the right and left may form a new coalition. The collective minded people on the right, look to me like they’ll sort into the collectivist group.

 

[EMT-Alex]

I thought about where to put this, this was the best I could come up with, even though it's not "legislation".

Anyway, the source of many of these are coming from facebook, "Anti-Gunners Say the Darnedest Things Rebooted"
https://www.facebook.com/antigunnerssaythedarnedestthings/

When I lived in California, I had a hardcore democrat English teacher.
He explained to the class that guns are unnecessary and he justified his reason with his own experience.

He was returning home with his father to their house. His father entered the kitchen only to be greeted with an armed robber.

The robber proceeded to beat his father and threaten to shoot him if they tried to retaliate in any way.

The robber took what he could and left, his father had to go to the hospital and the perpetrator was never caught.

My teacher was glad he didn’t have a firearm to defend himself with because it would’ve escalated the situation.

Me and my friend died of laughter.
If you’re going to burglarize a home, hit the ones with the BLM signs.

 

[Twangbanger]

...If you’re going to burglarize a home, hit the ones with the BLM signs.

It's the surest way to know. A BLM sign says "loot." They might even put out a "halloween basket" on the porch for you. It sounds like something from a Rush Limbaugh sketch, so it will probably happen.

 

[actaeon277]

I guess this guy doesn't know that there are teachers that carry.

Doringo: We Can't Have Doctors, Engineers, Nursing Home Employees or Teachers Carrying Guns - The Truth About Guns

&#9664Previous Post Next Post▶ …Republican legislators in Ohio who are promoting proposed House Bill 99, which would allow schools to arm teachers, deem it necessary to “solve” the school shooting crisis by filling schools with more guns. HB 99 passed the Ohio House last month and is pending in...

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[jamil]

I guess this guy doesn't know that there are teachers that carry.

Doringo: We Can't Have Doctors, Engineers, Nursing Home Employees or Teachers Carrying Guns - The Truth About Guns

&#9664Previous Post Next Post▶ …Republican legislators in Ohio who are promoting proposed House Bill 99, which would allow schools to arm teachers, deem it necessary to “solve” the school shooting crisis by filling schools with more guns. HB 99 passed the Ohio House last month and is pending in...

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"Bringing guns into our schools conveys one monumental lesson: that we should deal with violence in our society with greater threats of violence. As students go out into the world, will they take that lesson with them?"

Uh. This guy is a moron who doesn't understand society. Yes. threats of violence have to be dealt with another threat of violence. That's why the state has guns, although in the US, we recognize that the state shouldn't have a monopoly on violence. It's just the way it is.

 

[Bugzilla]

"Bringing guns into our schools conveys one monumental lesson: that we should deal with violence in our society with greater threats of violence.

Isn’t that how you prevent violence and win wars! Being sent to prison, large bond, etc are “forms of violence“. Look at the cities that eliminated those, and defunded the PD. Liberal utopia.

 

[jamil]

Isn’t that how you prevent violence and win wars! Being sent to prison, large bond, etc are “forms of violence“. Look at the cities that eliminated those, and defunded the PD. Liberal utopia.

Violence make civility possible.

 

[actaeon277]

 

[Bugzilla]

 

[2A_Tom]

I wasn't sure where to put this.

 

[DadSmith]

 

[actaeon277]

“We do not believe that arresting people and convicting them for illegal gun possession is a viable strategy to reduce shootings.”

Philadelphia Crime Analysis Clearly Illustrates the Disfunction of the City's Criminal Justice System - The Truth About Guns

&#9664Previous Post Next Post▶ Vast in scope, the report touches on topics including arrests, bail, sentencing, and the need for trauma services, victim assistance, and neighborhood investments. An executive summary included 35 recommendations, almost none of which came with concrete price tags...

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[actaeon277]

 

[actaeon277]

Hogg is getting flamed with people telling him, it's ILLEGAL to hunt people.

 

[actaeon277]