All digital communications are recorded and stored

[CSORuger]

"no digital communication is secure", by which means not that any communication is susceptible to government interception as it happens (although that is true), but far beyond that: all digital communications - meaning telephone calls, emails, online chats and the like - are automatically recorded and stored and accessible to the government after the fact. To describe that is to define what a ubiquitous, limitless Surveillance State is.

Are all telephone calls recorded and accessible to the US government? | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

Do you think this is a good thing or a bad thing based on the times we live in? And what about the future when things change?

 

[jerryv]

We all lost all of our privacy via the so-called Patriot Act, in the wake of 9/11, when everyone was too afraid to complain. Apparently, to be a 'patriot', you have to let the government know everything you do or say.

That and the Dept of Homeland Security are among the biggest travesties to ever befall the country ..

 

[BogWalker]

This is why I like to say the words "bomb" "explosive" "air port" "jihad" and "mass casualty" at random and whenever possible on the internet. Give them something to filter through.

shooting, revolution, assassination, anfo, nuclear

You fellows in Washington reading this yet?

 

[woowoo2]

Frontline did a pretty good show on this.
Basically, the feds put a splitter on the main trunks in the data centers.
Everything is recorded, but humans only look at the data when the computer spots something.

 

[rhino]

You can blame the cell providers for this. They allow it voluntarily.

 

[dlbrown75]

Move along. Nothing to see here. Us tinfoil hat wears are just paranoid.
And to say 9/11 was allowed to bring in this police state is ludicrous.

 

[jedi]

“If you want to keep a secret, you must also hide it from yourself.”

 

[Shiban]

A few years ago I was talking via IM to a friend in FL. We were talking getting ready to play an online game called Rogue States. It's a RTS based on modern military units.
Anyway I told him to hurry up and get it started because I really wanted to nuke his sorry tail. The instant I hit send, my whole pc locked up. I had to restart my pc.
When I finally got back on he apologized for leaving because his pc locked up and needed to be restarted. We both kind of WTF... I haven't been comfortable talking online or on the phone since. It was extremely odd, and I'm not a tinfoil hat guy, but I knew someone was watching...

 

[printcraft]

A few years ago I was talking via IM to a friend in FL. We were talking getting ready to play an online game called Rogue States. It's a RTS based on modern military units.
Anyway I told him to hurry up and get it started because I really wanted to nuke his sorry tail. The instant I hit send, my whole pc locked up. I had to restart my pc.
When I finally got back on he apologized for leaving because his pc locked up and needed to be restarted. We both kind of WTF... I haven't been comfortable talking online or on the phone since. It was extremely odd, and I'm not a tinfoil hat guy, but I knew someone was watching...

I wouldn't worry about it, it's probably noth

 

[Trigger Time]

I've been telling people this for years and some would laugh. If you think the constitution is in effect when it comes to the federal govt, it is an illusion. Freedom and privacy is gone.

 

[jedi]

yup i've already reported all of you to bb!
bb is watching.

 

[Expat]

I wouldn't worry about it, it's probably noth

Weird. I was reading your post and my computer locked up

 

[johnny45]

bb can KMA.

 

[The Bubba Effect]

Weird. I was reading your post and my computer locked up

Dude, you're so full of shkl#ur42@LKJLK##(((((LKJFDLKSJ:FUJ*(***()ZLKJjKJLOOIUJUO98***********&#&#&@&@&@*(*$()$*fFLKFADSJFOECHELON0(*)(*lkjlkjkj####@@:!o*()*ujfop*(*&omnivore(*&#@)!@*&f(ylkjxzc(o*&u(@

 

[jedi]

bb can KMA.

to the minsirty of love you will go.
room 101

 

[johnny45]

to the minsirty of love you will go.
room 101

No.

I will not be going to the camp.

 

[jbombelli]

The Computer is your friend.

 

[ghuns]

You all need some time in a re-education camp to get your minds right. Big Brother is our friend. Ignorance is strength. BO is the greatest president ever. Oops, mighta laid it on a little too thick with that last bit. Even those listening in don't believe that.

 

[rhino]

This would only be a constitutional issue of the phone companies didn't voluntarily comply. Look in your contract and you'll probably find that your carrier asserts ownership of the signals you broadcast on their equipment.

The failed patriot act II had some provisions to indemnify the phone companies from legal issues if I recall correctly, but I don't think it matters. You sign the contract, and they choose to play ball with uncle sam.

 

[HmDBrian]

This would only be a constitutional issue of the phone companies didn't voluntarily comply. Look in your contract and you'll probably find that your carrier asserts ownership of the signals you broadcast on their equipment.

The failed patriot act II had some provisions to indemnify the phone companies from legal issues if I recall correctly, but I don't think it matters. You sign the contract, and they choose to play ball with uncle sam.

I see what you are saying, but its still a constitutional problem. Just because a piece of paper says otherwise dont mean s**t. So if they ban guns and its on a piece of paper its no longer a constitutional problem? Yes, we sign the contract, but thats because most dont want to be without phones etc. Dont mean its right or constitutional to invade privacy of others.