308 Precision Shooting

[tsmysak1]

New to the forum.

Have been working on accuracy loads for an AR-10(T) and wanted to ask what folks have been able to achieve. Best group to date is 0.262" - 5 shot at 100 yds.. Not real great, but it is now consistent..

Comments?

 

[cce1302]

I'm not a precision shooter, but from what I hear, just over quarter minute is pretty good, especially with a semi-auto.
I am interested, though, in what you can do. I've got a .308 on my list of rifles to buy.

 

[42769vette]

.262 sounds pretty good to me im assuming thats center to center correct. oh ya and

 

[tsmysak1]

Yes, center to center is correct.

I spent a tremendous amount of time on this one. First, you may need to stiffen the joint. I used the accu-wedge, which I am not convinced helps that much. But it can't hurt, right?

Second the rifle has enough recoil that it can play all kinds of games on the bench. using a standard stock (better with a bag) I decided to fill it with lead shot. The rifle is heavy now.... like over 10 lbs. It still requires very precise bench ettiquete, but seems much more repeatable.

Lastly, load development was time consuming. I read an article on a match once where almost everyone in the final round was shooting IMR 4895. I tried it and the groups tightened up significantly. Since then, I have had two friends who experienced the same thing in bolt guns. One guy shot a ragged hole, which he now carries around in his pocket.

 

[tyler34]

Sniper's Hide -all your questions will be answered there.

and welcome to the forum!

 

[Slab]

Ive been reading on snipers hide for WEEKS!!! and havent had to start over. there is so much god stuff over there.

oh yeah welcome to ingo.

 

[tsmysak1]

Is it cool to discuss loads on the forum, or is that taboo?

 

[NWI40cal]

I'm not sure about taboo, as I don't see it too often, but I'm sure it happens a lot in the Ammo/Accessories forum. Wilkommen to INGO!

 

[sloughfoot]

Accurate 308 loads have pretty much been set in stone and published for many years. It is hard to get into trouble with the 308. 4895, 4064, RE15, Varget are all good powders. 168 Sierra is the gold standard and was designed for 300 meter International competition.

1/4 MOA is GREAT shooting for 100 yards. The trick is keeping it that tight at 300 yards consistantly.

Does that AR10(T) have a 10 or 12 twist?

Welcome to the forum.

 

[tsmysak1]

1 in 10 I believe.

Thanks for the info... best regards

 

[ROLEXrifleman]

If your squeezing 1/4 moa at 100 with your AR10T consider yourself a very lucky man. Investing the time into squeezing anything smaller out of that gun may be futile. At this point you may want to look for a great bolt action or just continue to shoot the 10T till you burn out the barrel. At that point you could go with a Rock Barrel and matched bolt and see where the accuracy goes from there.

Round count and load being used?

Also, I'm assuming you have the factory tube on it. Is it the older CM, newer SS or the no longer available factory option LW?

 

[JByer323]

If your squeezing 1/4 moa at 100 with your AR10T consider yourself a very lucky man. Investing the time into squeezing anything smaller out of that gun may be futile. At this point you may want to look for a great bolt action or just continue to shoot the 10T till you burn out the barrel. At that point you could go with a Rock Barrel and matched bolt and see where the accuracy goes from there.

I honestly agree. See what that groups at 300 yards, and if it's anywhere close to 1/4 MOA, you're done.

 

[ROLEXrifleman]

Another thing to consider is your shooting ability. If all you've ever done is shoot at 100 yards then the jump to 200, 300 and 400 will be a great learning oppertunity for you. Your shooting skill will play a greater role in keeping those groups that small out at further distances.

If you want a bench gun that shoots tiny one hole groups at 100 yards teh AR10T isnt it. It's a tactical gun whose cartridge will become challenged the further out you get in distance.

my opinion, skip the reloading bench... the gun has proven itself as a 1/4" operator. Start getting more distance between you and the target and see where your skill level is at.

 

[unforgiven1203]

imnsho , a person shooting 1/4 moa is pretty impressive out of anything. and the fact that the ar-10 is capable of it is even more so.

 

[phylodog]

I've never seen a sub .5MOA gas gun. I'd love to shoot it or even see it shot.

 

[abnk]

New to the forum.

Have been working on accuracy loads for an AR-10(T) and wanted to ask what folks have been able to achieve. Best group to date is 0.262" - 5 shot at 100 yds.. Not real great, but it is now consistent..

Comments?

Not real great? Dude, in a scale of poor-to-superb, that is ungodly. And do that consistently? I'd like to be next in line after Phylodog.

 

[Robert Richardson]

I've never seen a sub .5MOA gas gun. I'd love to shoot it or even see it shot.

Yeah,I'd like to see it done