They're exhausted and their brains all hurt after that . . . and they're undoubtedly hungry too.And they are not even finishing the slate.
Note: Liz Brown & Susan Glick voted against it.
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They're exhausted and their brains all hurt after that . . . and they're undoubtedly hungry too.And they are not even finishing the slate.
After all that hot air preaching.. good grief. Dont blame them.They're exhausted and their brains all hurt after that . . . and they're undoubtedly hungry too.
Note: Liz Brown voted against it.
TOUCH DOWN, HB 1235 PASSES THE SENATE, now goes to the house for a hopeful motion to concur.
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Just be glad that by it’s nature I have to type things in for the Forum. If you guys heard me cussing out some of the people on the legislature streams, well ahh… it’s language that would make a sailor blush. Sometimes I feel I need to make rude gestures at the screen.
INGO Rated ESRGJust be glad that by it’s nature I have to type things in for the Forum. If you guys heard me cussing out some of the people on the legislature streams, well ahh… it’s language that would make a sailor blush. Sometimes I feel I need to make rude gestures at the screen.
Had someone over hear me and asked me what has my all wound up tighter then a cheap watch. I pointed at the screen and got.. ohh.. ohh yeah, continue. Lol
One of these days I will figure out how to green screen myself into the corner and restream it… but it would have to be rated extra salty
Assuming we get through the last couple of steps and this becomes law, I predict that the next thing that will happen is when the AG files whatever motion he files to take over the case (which the statute contemplates) there will be a big fight over that motion which, in itself may spawn appeals, regardless of the trial court ruling, before the case is even dismissed which is what it is expected the AG will do. Fine. This law is going to be tested through the courts somehow.Where are Pol and Bangle going from here? Based on the arguments made during floor debate, this is my prediction:
They'll be looking for any loophole or other means possible to resurrect what they had going in Gary v. Glock. I predict it will be futile, but the punishment isn't always the verdict, it can easily be the process bankrupting a defendant or respondent. Thus spake the fragmented leaves of tea in the bottom of my tea cup this evening.
- Passing ordinances, etc. that ban all gun, ammo and gun accessory advertising, including all signage, and in all publications sold or distributed within the city and county, whether local, regional or national (e.g. no more Field and Stream there). California tried this and got spanked over commercial 1st Amendment rights. California claimed they were marketing to kids to induce them to violate purchase and possession by minor laws, inducing minors to steal guns.
- Brady Bunch gathering up a load of individuals hungry for free cash in a mega-settlement to file individual lawsuits claiming they've been and are being harmed by gun manufacturers and retailers (FFLs), having to live in terror of being shot by criminals with guns that were made by the manufacturers and were possibly sold by the retailers, for which they'll need massive discovery of half a billion unredacted 4473's to sift through so they can prove their point. Whether that survives PLCAA and the new Indiana law would have to be challenged in the courts again. Class-action anyone?
- Using the zoning exemption to create zoning ordinances that effectively prevent any retail sale of guns within the city and county by not allowing a single square centimeter of land on which a gun store or retailer selling guns can operate. Yet another tactic being pursued in California that's getting local governments slapped. IIRC, Chicago and Cook County tried this in the wake of the SCOTUS 2010 McDonald decision and eventually got spanked hard by the 7th Circuit over it after they kept worming around trying six ways from Sunday to get around every District Court Order issued to enforce McDonald -- with one of the tactics requiring gun range training and then making it impossible to set up a gun range.
Nothing of interest today on the legislative front really...
But.. I did see this @KellyinAvon
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I agree.Assuming we get through the last couple of steps and this becomes law, I predict that the next thing that will happen is when the AG files whatever motion he files to take over the case (which the statute contemplates) there will be a big fight over that motion which, in itself may spawn appeals, regardless of the trial court ruling, before the case is even dismissed which is what it is expected the AG will do. Fine. This law is going to be tested through the courts somehow.
California already attempted this -- banning all gun advertising in all magazines and newspapers as it was inducing kids to go get guns by any means possible and shoot everything in sight willy-nilly. Got slapped down for it by a Federal Court (not Benitez) as they couldn't show an adequate connection between the advertising and the actions of under-age minors. However, don't underestimate Gary and its County attempting the same strategy until they get spanked for it.As for banning advertisement, they only care about allegedly misleading advertisements because it if about the only thing the courts left standing of the lawsuit. Banning ads is "prior restraint" and a serious 1st Amendment problem. The City does that, they THEY get sued and they risk damages and attorney fees. They are not interested in being on that side of the "v".
I agree it's a steep hill to climb, and the city/county are overloaded with bad actors (the locals refuse to adequately pursue and prosecute) but I believe Pol et al. won't rest until they cobble something together. Tenacity and perseverance are among their strengths, not weaknesses.Individuals suing? Doubt it. That would result in too deep a look into the people getting shot. There are a few innocents and a lot of bad actors.
I agree that Brady doesn't care about Gary or Lake county per se, only about their disarmament cause. I'll wait and see if they fold up their tent and depart, or go down another path thinking they can resurrect Freddy Kruger.Once the new law (assuming) winds its way through the system, if it stands (which, personally, I think it should), Brady gives up on Gary and goes elsewhere...because it always cared about the "cause" and never cared a bit about the people of Gary.