The end of affordable table saws? Probably, if Congress/CPSC gets their way.

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    TL;DW: Consumer Product Safety Commission is trying to eliminate 40,000 ER visits per year related to table saw accidents. So they are pushing to force manufacturers to use flesh sensing tech on ALL table saws. (Name brand is Saw Stop)

    It will eliminate all inexpensive saws because they are not robust enough to support the physics of sawstop tech. And midrange and higher saws will increase by hundreds of dollars. So you wont be able to get into a table saw for less than $750 or so. (if you are a saw snob that only buys the best, save it. Not all of us need a $1,000 saw for weekend projects once or twice a year or less)

    SawStop CEO said if the law passes he will pull a Jonas Salk and give up his patent for the good of the people. (I smell a rat) And the video author believes that this is the final straw that will embolden .gov and nudge them to pass the law.

    Been meaning to buy one for several years because I need to do about 1-4 cuts a year, max. (I can use my existing saws for all but a few cuts) But I have access to a saw at work so I take the piece and use theirs. Given this potential, maybe its time for me to finally buy one.




    EDIT: IF you have been living in a hole, Saw Stop is tech that senses when flesh touches the spinning blade. When it happens, in a split second the blade retracts violently under the table into a metal block to stop the blade instantly. So you end up with a nick instead of a missing digit(s). It does have the downfall that sometimes wet lumber can sometimes cause a false positive.
     
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    Pretty cool technology and probably a good thing for any schools still teaching shop class.

    But for those of us who want to live on the dangerous side, this product does not help!!


    Wonder how easy it would be to bypass.

    Our JD S240 has had a button you push if you want to reverse with pto on.
     

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    Pretty cool technology and probably a good thing for any schools still teaching shop class.

    But for those of us who want to live on the dangerous side, this product does not help!!


    Wonder how easy it would be to bypass.

    Our JD S240 has had a button you push if you want to reverse with pto on.
    I HATE HATE HATE that new-ish feature. Mom's tractor does that. When I try to cut her 4 acres for her because she cant for some reason I trip that at least 10x.
     

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    Whew good thing I have my grandpa's ancient dunlap sears table saw that's an absolute death trap. If the blade doesn't get you the kick back will, if the kick back doesn't get you the exposed belts will, if the exposed belts don't get you the rickety stand my dad welded from scraps will. Dangerous tools build character.
     

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    Whew good thing I have my grandpa's ancient dunlap sears table saw that's an absolute death trap. If the blade doesn't get you the kick back will, if the kick back doesn't get you the exposed belts will, if the exposed belts don't get you the rickety stand my dad welded from scraps will. Dangerous tools build character.
    AMEN BROTHER!!!!
    Dont tell CPSC about these dudes. This thing will scald you, blow you up, run you over, crush you, AND cut you in half! LOL

     

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    When I had my table saw incident I was truly amazed at the number of people I knew or knew people that knew had accidents as well. If I had it to do all over again it would have been well worth it to buy a Saw Stop when I bought mine.

    Having said that, no way I support them being mandated.
     

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    Pretty cool technology and probably a good thing for any schools still teaching shop class.

    But for those of us who want to live on the dangerous side, this product does not help!!


    Wonder how easy it would be to bypass.

    Our JD S240 has had a button you push if you want to reverse with pto on.

    Are you familiar with how "safety first" breeds poor habits?
     

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    I own a 10" Powermatic 66 cabinet saw, it has a 3hp Baldor driving the blade.
    I'm waffling with this product myself, I dont believe I have ever cut any "wet" lumber with this saw since I bought it new in the late 80's.
    It would be a darn good feeling when you felt the ahhhh-oh and looked down and the cut is minor compared to what it would have been not so long before without this advancement.
     

    freekforge

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    Are you familiar with how "safety first" breeds poor habits?
    I'm on the safety committee at work and got a stern talking to because I suggested we let people make "ouchie mistakes" because if it hurts they'll learn to do it right. Obviously stop them from cutting themselves in half or whatever but a superficial cut is worth it in the long run. Apparently that's not an osha approved method of teaching good safe work habits.
     

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    Got pulled over a while back when I was pulling a trailer full of dirt down the road.

    Motorcycle cop caught me driving 20mph with a trailer full of dirt without wearing a seatbelt.

    "Where's your seatbelt?"

    He didn't seem too jolly....must have been behind on his quota.
     
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    Creedmoor

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    Got pulled over a while back when I was pulling a trailer full of dirt down the road.

    Motorcycle cop caught me driving 20mph with a trailer full of dirt without wearing a seatbelt.

    "Where's your seatbelt?"

    He didn't seem to jolly....must have been behind on his quota.
    Was it a covered load?
     

    Creedmoor

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    I'm on the safety committee at work and got a stern talking to because I suggested we let people make "ouchie mistakes" because if it hurts they'll learn to do it right. Obviously stop them from cutting themselves in half or whatever but a superficial cut is worth it in the long run. Apparently that's not an osha approved method of teaching good safe work habits.

    Since its not in purple,
    Not to sure you would have done that well with me as a supervisor. At minimum I would have removed your presents from any future safety meetings.
     
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