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  • foszoe

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    You can't look up a quote if you don't know it exists

    Yes, I know the stuff and am somewhat widely read for an engineer

    Edit: I do look up some of them to be sure about correct wording
    your quotes are awesome.

    I read a lot (seriously)

    I can't seem to remember what I read. Its like sometimes something pulls it up to consciousness but I know not where it came from to cite it. The knowledge hangs out but I can't source it.

    I read a book on the history of liturgical theology last week and this week I could tell you the themes, thesis, but I can't remember it like I would want. Definitely not quote from it.
     

    Tombs

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    I don't know how we're going to continue forward as a country.

    It's pretty clear they know they can't cheat to the degree necessary to offset these kind of numbers and are willing to go to absolutely any length to avoid Trump winning.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    I don't know how we're going to continue forward as a country.

    It's pretty clear they know they can't cheat to the degree necessary to offset these kind of numbers and are willing to go to absolutely any length to avoid Trump winning.
    So let's see... Trump not wanting electors certified = "OMG INSURRECTION!"

    Dems not wanting elections certified = "Saving Democracy!"

    That about right? :rolleyes:
     

    Ziggidy

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    It's pretty clear they know they can't cheat to the degree necessary to offset these kind of numbers and are willing to go to absolutely any length to avoid Trump winning.
    And why not? They are in our face with all the other made up lying, cheating, manipulated, far reaching, law breaking crap; without blinking an eye. They will have states using the documented undocumented criminals that will cause confusion to the election. They have millions of military aged men ready to cause enough havoc to declare Martial Law before or after the election; if needed.

    Bottom line is they do not care what the law is and will do whatever they want. They are not trying to hide it any longer. IOW, they can and will do whatever they want in order to win. They may or may not succeed but this I tell you. Either way, expect havoc; not from the right, but from the left.

    I believe they are using 2020 as a tool, an example to instill fear for anyone who wishes to protest an election result.

    I pray I am wrong.
     

    SheepDog4Life

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    I don't understand this dude. 2020 he says TikTok is a national security threat and should be banned. Now he is saying its the same threat Facebook is and sounds wishy-washy on banning it?

    TikTok a US security threat, says Trump, similar to Facebook -CNBC
    I don't understand this dude. 2020 he says TikTok is a national security threat and should be banned. Now he is saying its the same threat Facebook is and sounds wishy-washy on banning it?

    TikTok a US security threat, says Trump, similar to Facebook -CNBC

    Because ChiComm ownership of tikTok is now MAGA/AF, doncha know!

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    Budlight... now TikTok.... sound like a case of "follow the money".
     

    Ingomike

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    Because ChiComm ownership of tikTok is now MAGA/AF, doncha know!

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    Budlight... now TikTok.... sound like a case of "follow the money".
    Or how about FB and all are just as bad and beholden to the CCP as tic tok? Also the anti regime messaging is resonating with young people on tic tok. The Trump team is using it to get to younger demographics…
     

    SheepDog4Life

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    Having heard and read the transcript, It's undeniable that Trump did not pressure GA officials on that call to fabricate votes. Anyone on that call who alleges otherwise is either a liar or a moron.

    So addressing anyone reading this who who believes the media portrayal that Trump tried to bully GA into fabricating votes, what this means is that you were lied to. So @HKFaninCarmel, @SheepDog4Life, whoever else was convinced that Trump tried to get GA officials to fabricate votes, you were suckered. You fell for it.
    Nope, I never said that nor anything remotely close to it. I said I read the transcripts and GA SoS thoroughly debunked Trump's hyperventilating "stolen election" allegations, point-by-point. I remember the "dead voters" and "out-of-state voters" (there were other allegation) where Trump's "data analysts" had only matched on first name, last name and YEAR of birth.

    However, I will say that if Biden or any of his minions were ever recorded as telling a state's head election official that they needed to "find" X number of votes, INGO would be on fire with conspiracy talk... so I find calling this out as pretty duplicitous, to say the least.

    Regardless, Trump made clear "what" he wanted... but he did not "tell" Rasperger to manufacture them.

    How does that make you feel? Does it **** you off? It should. You should never trust that source of information again. You got swindled. You traded one of your most important possessions, your belief, for a sack of worthless ****. I don't care whose side the source is on. It should make you angry that someone you trusted enough to believe, suckered you like that. It's why I don't trust GWP. Fool me once...

    Don't trust media. Any of it.
    Lol, I've been saying this since so long ago that Kut was still around. It's now true of any source, left or right... the only source I've never caught in an outright lie is NR. All other sources, I assume they are lying... and even NR, I source-check.
     

    SheepDog4Life

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    Or how about FB and all are just as bad and beholden to the CCP as tic tok? Also the anti regime messaging is resonating with young people on tic tok. The Trump team is using it to get to younger demographics…
    Mike, Trump called to ban TikTok way back when... the only question and legislation in action NOW is to FORCE ChiComm ByteDance to divest ownership... which the House Committee advanced 50-0.

    Again, this is about ChiComm ownership of TikTok and all of the user data associated with it.

    Why, oh why would Trump flip-flop now?

    Convince me he has not sold out to the ChiComms the way he did for Budlight?
     

    Ingomike

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    Mike, Trump called to ban TikTok way back when... the only question and legislation in action NOW is to FORCE ChiComm ByteDance to divest ownership... which the House Committee advanced 50-0.

    Again, this is about ChiComm ownership of TikTok and all of the user data associated with it.

    Why, oh why would Trump flip-flop now?

    Convince me he has not sold out to the ChiComms the way he did for Budlight?
    He didn’t “sell out” to bud light, he never stopped supporting them. They supported him through a lot of s***. He is loyal and pragmatic.

    I do not know his rationale concerning tik tok but I can tell you we are not living in 1979. This is likely our last chance to make a stand against the leftist machine, choose which side you are on carefully as there are only two…
     

    Flash-hider

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    Thank you for doing the research and presenting that analysis, KG; it helps make sense out of what was to me 'new news'

    For those who don't recognize the name, Peter Meijer is a scion of a very wealthy family with its hands in a lot of pies in Michigan - think what the Mormon Church is to Utah politics. They are country club neocon republicans, far from America First and no friends of the little people. IMO good call on Trump's part, he was presented with less than optimal choices and made the best call he could
    Actually, Peter Meijer won his Congressional seat in 2022 after Justin Amash didn't seek re-election. Amash a 5 term Republican Congressman turned independent in 2019 and made a run for President in the Libertarian Party but was not successful.
    Meijer was a one term congressman. When Meijer's congressional district was redrawn, he lost to a female democrat Hillary Scholten who served in the Obama administration.
    I always thought Meijer followed in the footsteps of Fred Upton but not a hard follower either. If his district would have remained untouched, I believe he would have been re-elected in 2022. But Michigan's "Citizen Re-districting" committee heavily favored the democrats winning. They called it "balance".
    Meijer's nor Amash don't stand a snowball's chance against the heavily favored Congresswoman Elissa Slotkin whose current district is the greater Lansing area which includes Michigan State University.
    What it comes down to is Mike Rogers has the best odds of going up against her in the November general election. Like it or not that's what we in Michigan have to get an R back into Stabenow's long held seat.
     
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    SheepDog4Life

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    He didn’t “sell out” to bud light, he never stopped supporting them. They supported him through a lot of s***. He is loyal and pragmatic.

    I do not know his rationale concerning tik tok but I can tell you we are not living in 1979. This is likely our last chance to make a stand against the leftist machine, choose which side you are on carefully as there are only two…
    When he was president, he called for banning TikTok.

    Now that there is a serious effort to force the ChiComms to sell TikTok, he is parroting TikTok's narrative... follow the money... Trump is Trump first, not America first (the traditional meaning, not the Trademarked meaning).
     

    Ingomike

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    Actually, Peter Meijer won his Congressional seat in 2022 after Justin Amash didn't seek re-election. Amash a 5 term Republican Congressman turned independent in 2019 and made a run for President in the Libertarian Party but was not successful.
    Meijer was a one term congressman. When Meijer's congressional district was redrawn, he lost to a female democrat Hillary Scholten who served in the Obama administration.
    I always thought Meijer followed in the footsteps of Fred Upton but not a hard follower either. If his district would have remained untouched I believe he would have been re-elected in 2022. But Michigan's "Citizen Re-districting committee heavily favored the democrats winning. They called it "balance".
    Meijer's nor Amash don't stand a snowball's chance against the heavily favored Congresswoman Elissa Slotkin whose current district is the greater Lansing area which includes Michigan State University.
    What it comes down to is Mike Rogers has the best odds of going up against her in the November general election. Like it or not that's what we in Michigan have to get an R back into Stabenow's long held seat.
    One thing INGO is not good at is nuiance. I despise how Susan Collins votes but do not hold that against her, she is about the best we are going to get from her state and when she retires it likely will be a dem pickup. Romney votes almost identical to Collins but I not only despise his votes, I despise him, he is in a conservative seat voting like an east coast liberal. There is a difference…
     

    Ingomike

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    When he was president, he called for banning TikTok.

    Now that there is a serious effort to force the ChiComms to sell TikTok, he is parroting TikTok's narrative... follow the money... Trump is Trump first, not America first (the traditional meaning, not the Trademarked meaning).
    And you are not SD4L first? I believe God put it in this order, God, family, country. We are not going to find altruistic leaders, the best we can hope for is that there is alignment that what is good for the individual/family is simultaneously good for the country…
     

    SheepDog4Life

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    And you are not SD4L first? I believe God put it in this order, God, family, country. We are not going to find altruistic leaders, the best we can hope for is that there is alignment that what is good for the individual/family is simultaneously good for the country…
    No, I'm fourth after God, Country and family.

    Trump is Trump first... AF is just a slogan for him.

    He's only railing against the forced ChiComm divestiture of TikTok (whereas he previously wanted it banned) because, somehow, now, that is now good for him.

    Things that make you go hmmmm....
     

    Ingomike

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    No, I'm fourth after God, Country and family.
    Not intending to turn this into a theological discussion but God said that there should be no other Gods before him, then instructed believers to care for their families. God didn’t install country ahead of family and in most instances the family and their leader have their interests aligned.

    Trump is Trump first... AF is just a slogan for him.
    I couldn’t care less if it is Trump first, as long as it results in outcomes good for America First. I am over all the second guessing of Trump by the political norms of the past. The left are well beyond the political norms of the past.

    He's only railing against the forced ChiComm divestiture of TikTok (whereas he previously wanted it banned) because, somehow, now, that is now good for him.
    Yep, he likely sees some advantages in this. For the political class, that is unique how?

    Things that make you go hmmmm....

    Things that make SD4L and HKfan go hmmmm….
     
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