That is very true.
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The NRA is the members organization. @Ingomike I'm not sure if you are related to WLP or what but I don't get your defense of him, the NRA needs to move beyond him, he abused his power and that's not what we need. We need to get a board that will strengthen the NRA and make sure there is no corruption and that we are all working together for the strength of the organization to battle the anti 2A groups. It's time to listen to the members, and yes I am a voting member.
You have no proof other than stated by enemies of the NRA.
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The proof of corruption comes from the NRA itself. They're asking WLP for the money back.
Corruption is not needed to protect our rights. That's "Normalcy Bias." When WLP gets caught using member funds for transparently personal purposes (Note: the NRA itself is asking for millions back, so the "personal purposes" part is _NOT _ in dispute), that embarrasses us and makes our cause a laughingstock.
WLP did not spend the disputed funds for "smash mouth" tactics to more effectively advance our cause within the rough-and-tumble MMA Cage of corrupt DC politics.
He spent it on himself. Even the NRA itself agrees on that. That's why they're asking for it back. Your "indisputable source" verifying WLP stole from the NRA...is THE NRA ITSELF.
Read that last part again real slow, for comprehension.
It isn't just the NY AG claiming WLP misappropriated/stole funds.
It's the NRA itself that's saying that. They are asking WLP to pay the money back.
If you continue to argue as if this isn't the case, we're going to have to chalk this up to willful non-acceptance of the basic facts of the case, on your part.
Your hero is a crook. The truth hurts.
The left made a bunch of well meaning people to burn down the one organization that was dialed in in DC. Unlike most posters here I have invested a chunk of hard earned cash I don’t want to burn down what I invested in. Mark my words here, the NRA will NEVER be what it once was, the members bought the hook line, sinker and sunk the ship.
Jeez, want to protect an investment and folks accuse you of being in on it. LOL
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I paid my $500 in 1993. I got an Assault Weapon Ban the next year, anyway. It is my money, and I am free to do with it as I please. I'm not burning the NRA down. They have $500 of my money. That's gotta be over $1,000 in "today money." If Wayne spent it on suits, instead of stopping the AW ban, that's on him.
And so is your constitutional carry and reciprocity across many states...
WLP was at the State house schmoozing State Senators and Reps?
We have gained little at the Federal level.
You really are the poster child for loyal to a fault.
And we never will.
I would not expect any of us to be best buds with WLP or even like him, none of us run in that crowd.
This is simply the McDonalds Happy Meal for gun guys. The NRA needs members to show those politicians how strong we are, if it was just life members there wouldn’t be the fear factor there once was. A lot of folks eat that stuff up.
It was a smart strategy and I suggest your disinterest was an outlier, this stuff was not random it was professional marketing to bring in bucks. Just like the different level of marketing that got me to spend to be a life member from day one…
We are second guessing professionals in marketing here.
They built one if the most enviable political machines out there, very few interest groups had as much clout for the dollars raised.
Marketing is a plan that us executed, they seemed pretty successful to me.
The recent months have been a disaster because members stopped funding the organization. Do you think anyone on the left cares about this crap in their organizations? They don’t. They care about what I care about results, results many of which must be won in the DC swamp.
You have really lost me here. You don't want a leader that can connect to Schumer and McConnell? The two biggest names in the senate? This is not how lobbying works. No lobbying group is going to bring them down.
I get it none of us like the game but you are either at the table or on the menu. I greatly fear this takedown of the NRA will put our gun interests on the menu. Politics is a tough game before all the corruption that exist there too.
Again, I don’t condone all the crap, but as I have said before this in not a local gun club, this is the big leagues and none of our enemies are clutching their pearls over this stuff in their organizations…
If you follow the thread KiA has the NRA is often there with him, but I will let him speak for himself on this question.
We have held our own against billionaires that wish to destroy us. Bloomberg is worth near $100 billion spending a reported $50-$75 million a year to defeat us. The NRA was a big part of holding back that onslaught which is why they went so far to destroy it.
I will take that as a high compliment.
Good question. The off the top of my head answer is, if what he was convicted of caused the likes of Schumer and McConnell, in other words the powers that run DC, to no longer fear or work with him rendering him ineffective at lobbying.
Do you think that if the members stood up for him and told NY to **** off that the DC power would care about suits and luxury travel? Would those that support us care? Would anyone care? I don’t think so…
I think the NRA-ILA has been good through the years and they deserve our support. You may not want to become a member but you can still donate to NRA-ILA directly without being a member. You can do a one time donation, or monthly, or whatever. Of course you'll receive endless spam from them. You may even need to tell them if they don't knock it off they'll not get another ***damn dime.
But, point is, they do good work, that money is earmarked for 2A related legislative action. It doesn't go into the general NRA funds.
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It seriously isn't. You don't owe loyalty other than, to God, if that's what you believe, and to your country, to your family, and to your friends. Doesn't mean you don't have a sort of comradeship with like minded individuals who support the same causes. That's what an association is. It is the people, not the leader. The NRA is not WLP. You just have this unearned loyalty to WLP as if he IS the NRA.
So if you cannot vote you cannot help those of us that want to make things better. I have followed those that were trying to get good people on the board years before this blowup…
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