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  • bobzilla

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    I guarantee you WFH people are not feeling the pinch from this crap as much as people that are driving to and from work every day. Or live rural and HAVE to drive to get things etc.

    Wife is still driving 64 miles a day, 5 days a week getting 34mpg average. That works out to about 10 gallons per week. That’s an additional $20 per week just in fuel. I drive 30 miles per day at 35mpg average for about 5 gallons per week, or about $10. Between the wife and I we are taking a $30 per week hit to the wallet just in fuel.

    WFH you don’t have that problem. At all.
     

    bwframe

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    I just txted the daughter and suggested she top off on the way home, if she can still find gas for $3.99.

    Going up to $4.25 most places. Who knows about tomorrow? :dunno:

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    ancjr

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    Ingomike

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    Now wait just a cotton pickin' minute. I've been working from home since the lockdowns and I assure you I have sympathy for both individuals and small businesses. And I never insisted on anything. And just because I'm working from home doesn't mean I don't feel the pinch at the gas station, grocery stores, etc.. Need to narrow that brush a bit Bug...
    Don’t internalize this DD. You are an exception not the rule. Because the greater point is true…
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    Don’t internalize this DD. You are an exception not the rule. Because the greater point is true…
    Well, when companies tell their employees to work from home (as in my case - and there are a few thousand of us just at my facility), that's not a case of the employees saying "screw you" to those that didn't have the opportunity to do that. That's what I was taking exception to. We weren't the ones that made the policy, but as I said, I'm very thankful.
     

    bobzilla

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    Well, when companies tell their employees to work from home (as in my case - and there are a few thousand of us just at my facility), that's not a case of the employees saying "screw you" to those that didn't have the opportunity to do that. That's what I was taking exception to. We weren't the ones that made the policy, but as I said, I'm very thankful.
    But as I stated you’re also not feeling the same effect we are.
     

    snowwalker

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    I guarantee you WFH people are not feeling the pinch from this crap as much as people that are driving to and from work every day. Or live rural and HAVE to drive to get things etc.

    Wife is still driving 64 miles a day, 5 days a week getting 34mpg average. That works out to about 10 gallons per week. That’s an additional $20 per week just in fuel. I drive 30 miles per day at 35mpg average for about 5 gallons per week, or about $10. Between the wife and I we are taking a $30 per week hit to the wallet just in fuel.

    WFH you don’t have that problem. At all.
    Doubtful you are feeling it as hard as the poor and elderly are. They are the ones that suffer the most.

    Thank a Democrat for the mess we are in.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    But as I stated you’re also not feeling the same effect we are.
    Oh I know, bob. And I do feel sympathy for folks that are not in my situation. I'm not just saying "I've got mine and to hell with everybody else." And gas prices for personal use is only one aspect of all this. We're all going to be feeling the pain (and already are) in the form of higher prices across the board. That pisses me off because so much of it was completely avoidable and the evil bastards in DC are the ones that I'm pissed at.
     

    Tombs

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    The leftists ARE the class problem. Who do you think makes up the cheerleading section for everything 0Biden is doing. People who work from home, and have done so all through the lockdowns, have no sympathy for the pinch of rising gas prices or the damage done to small business by the lockdowns they insisted on. I doubt they even understand the hypocrisy of pretending to decrease their carbon footprint while relying on 2 day delivery from Amazon - as if those planes don't burn fuel or that a train and truck based delivery system is not several times more efficient

    I can't read your mind, but you often sound like you want to believe them when they claim they are for the little people. You need to think about who will have to pay for subsidized housing and free tuition, and then maybe go to the former socialist countries and see how the pensioners live. I predict you will not want your future constrained to only what the government can or is willing to give you when your usefulness is diminished

    Maybe you should listen to some people who actually have their head screwed on properly and are capable of independent thought, yet disagree with you economically.

    They exist, and no they didn't vote for biden nor do they cheerlead his policies.

    There's more than just 2 viewpoints on this matter.
     

    HoughMade

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    Our leaders at work. What a condescending bitch...


    Several of her facts are true, but they don't mean what she thinks they mean.

    "U.S. produced more oil than in Trump's 1st Year" "Most ever" etc.- What has been the population growth in 5 years? What has been the oil consumption trend? "Most ever" is irrelevant- what percentage of our needs are we producing?

    "It's just a pipeline" "Keystone XL would not solve this"- So, here's the thing- 3 phases of the Keystone are flowing. Only the 4th phase is not and because it was never completed, it never pumped oil, so it is accurate to say that stopping construction did not reduce the oil supply. However,, again, consumption is increasing. The Keystone XL (4th phase) was meant for future growth. We have no plan for future growth other than foreign oil now. I'd rather be dependent on Canada than Russia.

    "There are 9,000 approved permits not being used"- Where? If it made economic sense to drill there, they would. The permits are for places where it would be very expensive to get inadequate production...and even with the permits, production is still years away, but again- the future needs. That doesn't help prices.

    "Starting construction now wouldn't help current gas prices"- Simply put, BS and they know it. More wells and more pipelines DO NOT have to be flowing to lower oil prices.

    Think of it this way:
    First, as I stated before, pipelines are built based upon future needs. As population grows, more oil is needed. If a pipeline that is planned to meet that capacity is not built, as oil usage increases either the oil is obtained from somewhere else, or the prices increase or both.

    Second, and most immediate, OPEC and other oil producing countries know what future supplies are being planned and have often, in the past, lowered prices to make a new oil supply method comparatively more expensive. For instance- say oil prices are at $50/bbl (as if). An energy company studies the issue and believes that it can build a pipeline or drill in a certain area and be profitable as long as the price stays above $40/bbl. In order to keep the pipeline from being built or the drilling to start, OPEC and others can increase supply to lower the price of oil to $38/bbl or lower. The energy company can no longer count on profit and investors may bail, killing the pipeline before it is complete. Then, when the new oil supply is dead, those same countries can raise prices again. Therefore, even before a pipeline is online, or even built, it can have an effect of lowering prices if it is a threat. Imagine what could happen if enough regulation were removed to incentivize new (domestic) supplies even if the prices fell?

    Suffice to say, cancelling the Keystone XL project, even before it would have been delivering oil, could raise oil prices, and, of course, gasoline prices.

    Domestic oil production is a national security issue.
     
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