NWI INGO General Post Part 20 - Raccons 4 Life!

Breeve · Sep 27, 2021

Hello all, new here from Kouts.

d.kaufman · Sep 27, 2021

Breeve said:
Hello all, new here from Kouts.

Welcome from Hobart

If you're free Saturday and have the time some of us are meeting up for a meet, eat, shoot at the Winamac FWA range

NWI Meet & Shoot Saturday Oct 2nd

Seeing if there's any interest in a NWI Meet & Shoot and what day would work best. Poll is open for 14 days. Any of these days work fine for me Meet and Shoot would be at Winamac FWA Date set for Saturday Oct 2nd Another successful Meet and Shoot

www.indianagunowners.com

Breeve · Sep 27, 2021

d.kaufman said:
Welcome from Hobart

If you're free Saturday and have the time some of us are meeting up for a meet, eat, shoot at the Winamac FWA range

NWI Meet & Shoot Saturday Oct 2nd

Seeing if there's any interest in a NWI Meet & Shoot and what day would work best. Poll is open for 14 days. Any of these days work fine for me Meet and Shoot would be at Winamac FWA Date set for Saturday Oct 2nd Another successful Meet and Shoot

www.indianagunowners.com

I wish I could go, but I have other obligations this weekend. I will definitely go to the next one.

Bill2905 · Sep 27, 2021

chiraqi said:
Hey, that's me!

We're looking at unincorporated areas, Lowell, Griffith, even unincorporated Gary although maybe that's not a good idea, not sure.

I'm curious about shooting in your back yard. Like if you're in unincorporated Lowell, surrounding by farms and only a few houses, are you okay to shoot if you build a berm or backstop?

I figure on getting an NFA trust and cans right away to avoid disturbing people, but just wondering if it's legal.

Welcome to the Region.

I have often thought about acquiring land for shooting but it's probably not in the cards for me. I would think that one risk you must strongly consider is the potential future use of the adjoining property. If it were to be sold for new home construction, the lifestyle you cherish could change in a hurry. Just do your homework and don't rush into anything until you take the time to properly check things out.

Ballstater98 · Sep 27, 2021

Breeve said:
Hello all, new here from Kouts.

Snapdragon · Sep 27, 2021

Hi Breeve. Welcome.

melensdad · Sep 27, 2021

chiraqi said:
Thanks! We are thinking about a place in Cedar Creek. Property is only 3+ acres though. Two property lines will just be endless corn and soy fields. One property line is a farmhouse / storage and may have someone's residence. There's some houses across the street, sitting on 1-5 acres apiece.

I figure if nothing else maybe we can get away with suppressed .22s. Maybe let my boys shoot squirrels and set up a target range to the north or east? We'd like to maybe dig a pond, I wonder if I can use the dirt for a berm. Just speculating, so if this is crazy talk, just let me know!

Consider everything in feet, yards or miles.

It is over 1 mile from the back of my home to the back the farmhouse behind me.

It is about 125-150 yards to the house to my north, woods in between us.

100 yards to the house across the road to my east, woods in between us.

100 yards to the house to my south from my home, but only about 40 yards from my workshop to his house.

My shooting range actually faces to the south/southwest, so I shoot toward my closest neighbor. The backstop of my range sits at the base of a hill that is probably 30 feed BELOW my neighbors house, with woods that continue 150' behind the backstop. My range is about 150 yards long.

No risk of shooting a bullet into his home but the direction of the gun blast is roughly toward his home and has, during long shooting sessions, caused some irritation. I can't really say I blame him. When I was practicing with friends for some IDPA matches there was A LOT of shooting and LONG sessions of it, so really for any neighbor to put up with that is a challenge.

When I shoot shotgun we shoot west, which directs the gun blast AWAY from the neighbors, and some of the shot probably lands out in an adjacent farmer's field, but the clays all land on my property (even the ones we miss).

Shooting on 3 acres would probably be a small range, fairly confined. Noise will be your enemy so cans are a beautiful thing. The most common shape of 1 acre of land is 66' wide by 660' long. So your 3 acre parcel could be roughly 198' frontage by 660' deep. That is NOT much shooting space considering a 22lr will travel a mile and 12 gauge shot will travel 700+ feet. 3 to 4 densely planted rows of Spruce trees with some pine trees mixed in, closely planted around your range will actually help deaden the sound and it is amazing how far sound travels in the country. The spruces and pines will cost you $10,000, digging a pond is another $5,000 to $15,000+ to get dirt for a berm/backstop, and if the land is flat that berm/backstop will have to be fairly tall if it is just dirt.

Do it all right and your neighbors won't have any LEGITIMATE complaints. Do it wrong, or do stupid stuff, the sheriff will get to know you by first name, and not it a good way.

CTC B4Z · Sep 27, 2021

I just simply bought 10 acres thats 90% heavy woods.

If anything hits anybody through all of that then maybe they had it coming...

I don't even shoot anymore though. Haven't in years... I just cycle the EDC once in a blue moon

Bill2905 · Sep 27, 2021

Breeve said:
Hello all, new here from Kouts.

Welcome Breeve

melensdad · Sep 27, 2021

CTC B4Z said:
I just simply bought 10 acres thats 90% heavy woods.

Lots of people do that, but it is not considered particularly safe and if there are neighbors in close proximity that will generally get you a lecture from the sheriff. Of course in more rural areas it is generally not considered an issue.

chiraqi · Sep 27, 2021

melensdad said:
The most common shape of 1 acre of land is 66' wide by 660' long. So your 3 acre parcel could be roughly 198' frontage by 660' deep. That is NOT much shooting space considering a 22lr will travel a mile and 12 gauge shot will travel 700+ feet

Place we're looking at is 480x315. So pretty square. Maybe that's worse than a long rectangle? And yeah it's pretty flat.

I imagine shooting out over empty farmland is not very neighborly or the LLC that owns the land may not like lead in their corn. I'd need a berm. I'm guessing dirt is the only suitable backstop to really stop rounds, even .22lr?

Looking at another irregular-shaped 3 acre lot but the adjacent properties are residential and there's a veterinarian office nearby, I'm guessing that's a no. I could at least have chickens and a goat or two there (another goal).

Thanks for all the advice.

melensdad · Sep 27, 2021

chiraqi said:
Place we're looking at is 480x315. So pretty square. Maybe that's worse than a long rectangle? And yeah it's pretty flat.

I imagine shooting out over empty farmland is not very neighborly or the LLC that owns the land may not like lead in their corn. I'd need a berm. I'm guessing dirt is the only suitable backstop to really stop rounds, even .22lr?

Looking at another irregular-shaped 3 acre lot but the adjacent properties are residential and there's a veterinarian office nearby, I'm guessing that's a no. I could at least have chickens and a goat or two there (another goal).

Thanks for all the advice.

Lots of ways to build a range backstop. Generally you'll back anything up with dirt. If it is only dirt then you need to worry about the contour for erosion. Do a simple search, youtube has lots of ideas. Some of them are good ideas, some not so much.

CTC B4Z · Sep 27, 2021

melensdad said:
Lots of people do that, but it is not considered particularly safe and if there are neighbors in close proximity that will generally get you a lecture from the sheriff. Of course in more rural areas it is generally not considered an issue.

Zero worries. The neighbors do not care the one shoots like every Sunday. We've had parties til 1 am, ripping on bikes and quads.

chef larry · Sep 28, 2021

Tuesday morning and off to the salt mine.

Breeve · Sep 28, 2021

I have 3 acres to shoot on. Hundreds of acres to the east of us. Owner lets me shoot on it, as long as I call first and make sure his grandkids aren't out back on the atv track in the woods. I will only usually only shoot clay pigeons at home though.

repeter1977 · Sep 28, 2021

Welcome to INGO to all the newer posters.
As pointed out, we have an upcoming meet and shoot, it'll probably be the last for the year. Although we also do meet and eats occasionally as well.

tv1217 · Sep 28, 2021

Muhaha now there are two of us. Or 3 but Byron hasn't been on in ages

Ballstater98 · Sep 28, 2021

tv1217 said:
Muhaha now there are two of us. Or 3 but Byron hasn't been on in ages

He told me at a class a long time ago he doesn’t log on anymore. He has tons of other things he's doing.

999cs · Sep 28, 2021

I would love to buy some land to shoot on, but around here it seems impossible to find. I don't think that less than 10 acres I would feel comfortable doing it safely, but good luck on your search!

tv1217 · Sep 28, 2021

Ballstater98 said:
He told me at a class a long time ago he doesn’t log on anymore. He has tons of other things he's doing.

I can see that. Between his regular job, the training company, and his bazillion kids, he's gotta be busy busy all the time.

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