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  • Leadeye

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    If you wanted 357 sig-like performance, which itself was targeted at delivering 357 magnum-like performance in a semi-automatic, loading 38 super to its original design specs of 130 gr at 1300fps will do the trick, and 38SA is not bottle-necked so much easier to reload

    There is a distinct shortage of non-1911 style DA/SA firearms that chamber it and are worthy of carry, pretty much only rare P220s. That's why I still like 357 sig in certain applications. I have an FNX 40 with an EFK conversion barrel that is a joy to shoot and no harder to carry than my FNPs and I also have a P239 with both barrels (357/40) from the factory but it weighs more than my full size FNPs

    I have a Broomhandle that's chambered for 38 super or maybe 9 X 25. It has the little divot cut in the follower you find with the 9 X 25 chambering, and takes 38 Super ammo. I use Lee 125 grain hard cast bullets and a milder loading so I can load the same ammo in my Colts.

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    KJQ6945

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    2 calibers I have no need for. .40 SW, and .300 blackout.

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    Performs about the same as a 9mm with less capacity and more recoil. Thanks FBI. :ugh:

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    Subsonic, it is ballistically the equivalent of a .45acp. Full boat loads, it’s an anemic .308, or an AK. Jack of two trades, master of neither.
     

    DadSmith

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    10mm, it gave us .40S&W
    Despite everyone always saying "I wish it came in 10mm" , they do not in fact sell. Most guys who have one never shoot them due to cost of the ammo, and properly loaded 10mm is relatively hard to find at not obsene prices.

    It's an interesting cartridge absolutely, but it just annoys the hell out of me.


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    According to him Glock is selling more 10mm handguns than 45acp and 40S&W combined.
    If that is true than they absolutely do sell.

    If 10mm doesn't sell well then why are so many companies making 10mm now?
     

    woodsie57

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    Is there any particular caliber you don’t like? I guess I don’t actually DISLIKE any caliber, but for me, two come to mind that I just have never warmed up to and don’t really have much appeal to me. 380 and 22 magnum. I just have never felt the desire to buy one. My wife likes her 380, but I never shoot it. My brother loves his 22 magnum, but I just can’t really warm up to it.
    I don't personally have any use for a lot of calibers, but wouldn't say I "dislike" them. .223 comes to mind- too big for small game, too small for big game.
     

    Dean C.

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    According to him Glock is selling more 10mm handguns than 45acp and 40S&W combined.
    If that is true than they absolutely do sell.

    If 10mm doesn't sell well then why are so many companies making 10mm now?


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    Per your own poll more 10mm is less popular than .41 Magnum, even the geriatrics have it beat lol.
     

    Trapper Jim

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    10MM is a novelty caliber in a stock service platform. To do it right, it needs at least a 3lb gun as in revolver or closed breech firearm.

    Otherwise the report enables muzzle blast and recoil to diminish marksmanship.

    As far as lethality, there is only one level of dead and 10 MM gets you nothing but too much energy for EDC.

    Just my opinion.
     

    Squid556

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    That brings up a question I have had about the 6.5CM. I have read it is very similar to the 260 and the Swede, I have no personal experience or knowledge of either. Why a new cartridge? Why not just ramp up new rifles in these calibers?
    6.5 CM lets you get heavy long .264 bullets in a short action rifle.

    The Swede and rem need a long action to take full advantage. Otherwise the bullets get stuffed down quite deep (reducing velocity) to fit in the short action.

    This does not mean I’m some 6.5 CM fanboy. I just study things a lot and try to figure them out.
     
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    DadSmith

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    Per your own poll more 10mm is less popular than .41 Magnum, even the geriatrics have it beat lol.
    If Glock says they are selling more 10mm than 45acp and 40S&W combined, along with almost every major firearms manufacturer making 10mm handguns. That's a sign they are selling.

    Also this poll says about as many carry 10mm edc as 40S&W
    This is INGO if you had this poll say for Alaskan firearms owners I bet it would be much higher.


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    Reminder you stated they aren't selling.

    10mm is the same price as 45acp sometimes less.

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    Squid556

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    I like a lot of cartridges. They are all tools and work well when you use them to their strengths.

    However. …….
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    25 ACP - no point when 32 ACP exists.
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    .410 only because all these cool new guns chambered for it and it’s so expensive and hard to find. That’s just sick.
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    45 GAP. Shortened 45 ACP to fit in 9/40 frames. Solved a problem nobody was really asking for. Should have just trimmed the standard 45 caliber Glocks. Swing and a miss.
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    6.5 carcano and 7.35 carcano. Damn your odd sized bullets.
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    8x56R. Odd size / expensive to reload. Plenty of cool guns for a caliber you can’t find. And the overpriced ammo doesn’t even include the chiropractor fee.
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    50 Beowulf and 458 socom. Overly expensive to reload or shoot. Grotesque brass. All for worse performance than 450 bushmaster. 450 BowelMovement will forever be the superior big bore AR cartridge.
     
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    Hoosier8

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    .357 Sig is the only cartridge I tried and actively left. That said, I've not seen any reason to branch out that much. I reload, so if I want 'something different' I can typically achieve whatever that is by up or downloading one of my existing cartridges. .45 Colt is incredibly versatile. Anemic to atomic and most anything in between, for example.
    A friend recently became enamored with the .327 magnum. Had to look that one up.

    Personally I just stick to a few cartridges. Nothing against the others.
     

    BigMoose

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    6.5 carcano and 7.35 carcano. Damn your odd sized bullets.

    8x56R. Odd size / expensive to reload. Plenty of cool guns for a caliber you can’t find. And the overpriced ammo doesn’t even include the chiropractor fee.
    Decades old decisions by empires and nations long gone.

    First the Austro/Hungarians.
    The 8X56R (and for that matter the 8MM mauser) was designed with Machine guns first and foremost in mind. They know that it would be a compromise at best in a rifle, and an absolute dread in a Carbine. But the recoil and other bad trade offs was seen worth it to get the performance out of the MGs and stick to one small arms cartridge. Yes the stupid rimmed case and shape was weird, but you need to aim the same hate at 8×50mmR Lebel (french) as well.. okay well maybe the Lebel didn't have the recoil, but it had a similar dumb design. 8MM Mauser was a much better compromise if your going to do that, and some 8MM is like a mule kick.

    The Italians went the other direction.. and made things worse by severe indecision.
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    It is important to note that there is a THIRD small arms cartridge in this equation.
    The 8×59mm Rb Breda. This was for machine guns only. The Italians realized quick that this would be absolutely brutal in a rifle. This was opposite from a rimmed cartridge, in that it had a rebated smaller then case diameter rim.

    So enter the 7.35 Carcano as the new rifle cartridge. And it was going to be used in a new recoil operated semi auto rifle. The Italians had actually beat everyone else but the US and adopted a semi auto. The Armaguerra Mod. 39 rifle. The 7.35 Carcano was a pretty forward thinking and advanced cartridge (The one above on the right)

    However the Italians realized they bit way way off then they could chew, and brought back the obsolete 6.5 mid war, because they could make tons of those.
     
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    MrSmitty

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    .40, and 6.5 Creedmore. .40 because it was the end all, be all handgun round, 9mm does it all, and better... 6.5 because it is the end all, be all rifle round, I like my .308, and I'm not enough of a hunter, or distance shooter to try it out.... then again I am a border line Luddite....."get off my lawn!"
     

    Dean C.

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    If Glock says they are selling more 10mm than 45acp and 40S&W combined, along with almost every major firearms manufacturer making 10mm handguns. That's a sign they are selling.

    Also this poll says about as many carry 10mm edc as 40S&W
    This is INGO if you had this poll say for Alaskan firearms owners I bet it would be much higher.


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    Reminder you stated they aren't selling.

    10mm is the same price as 45acp sometimes less.

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    Alaska?!? I don't know what you are smoking but you should be sharing. Alaska has the 3rd smallest population in America lol. I figured the poll I posted was more generous (because it was) the poll you posted indicates even less people who own a 10mm carry one (further proving my point they just sit and are not shot).

    40 is dead, and only 1911's should be chambered in 45acp. I am absolutely positive for every 1 10mm gun SIG or Glock sell they sell 30 9mm guns.

    Once again 10mm is annoying just like Jeff Cooper was.
     
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