Why the hate for Cyclists?

[actaeon277]

 

[actaeon277]

 

[actaeon277]

 

[ZurokSlayer7X9]

Wow, @actaeon277 is on a roll.

 

[actaeon277]

Wow, @actaeon277 is on a roll.

I have my moments.
Not many
But some

 

[NHT3]

First I'll say I don't hate anyone but I am extremely annoyed by bicycles OR exercise walking on a public road. Just a couple of scenarios for the bikers and walkers to consider.
You are out for your afternoon exercise ride and you encounter a Yoga class that has decided the best place for the class in on a public thoroughfare. These people all own vehicles so it's their road just as much as yours to use. Yoga is exercise just as bicycling and walking so your options are to wait until the class concludes or cross a double yellow line into oncoming traffic to go around them. Keep in mind you can and probably will be ticketed for crossing the yellow line if a LEO observes you..

Second, actually happened to me today. Following a cement truck for at least 2 miles going 20 MPH in a 45 and was starting to wonder if the driver was having some kind of medical emergency. Finally traffic clears and because of the pedal toy (thanks BBIs) and the width of his vehicle he's forced at least 4 feet over the double yellow to safely pass the bike and continue on at a normal speed. I am also forced over the double yellow to safely pass the biker or I could have continued on at 20 MPH for who knows how long. Not really the biker's fault but there's simply no room to pass even one bike safely without forcing motorists to break the law by crossing the double yellow.. It seems you think it's acceptable for me to chance a traffic fine (or head on collision) for you to get some exercise I think you should think again how inconsiderate and dangerous your behavior is for everyone involved. Just my .02

 

[ZurokSlayer7X9]

I have my moments.
Not many
But some

I know the feeling. Though it's hard to know when my posts make a splash. Some I craft with carefully nuanced philosophy and mediation and only get one response, but I give comment on someone who appeared to be missing part of their head, and I get 2 full pages on my post.

 

[miguel]

Let's remember the thread title. Why the hate? Road cyclists recreationally block traffic. That's why people hate you. Simple enough.

The "but it's leEEeeegal... <.< whine has no affect on why people hate you. Go fart in a crowded elevator, look around and say "but it's lEEeeegal!" and see if that changes anyone's reaction. Lots of legal actions are inconsiderate dick moves. People may have to tolerate it, but they can still hate it, and you. And they do.

As far as farm equipment, etc. Of course farm equipment can use the roads. It's a legitimate necessity for them to do so, just like road work may slow traffic. You don't *have* to inconvenience everyone else with your pedal toy, you choose to.

Again: Road cyclists recreationally block traffic. That's why people hate you. Simple enough.

OMG. You have almost 25k posts and I think this is the best yet.

 

[JCSR]

First I'll say I don't hate anyone but I am extremely annoyed by bicycles OR exercise walking on a public road. Just a couple of scenarios for the bikers and walkers to consider.
You are out for your afternoon exercise ride and you encounter a Yoga class that has decided the best place for the class in on a public thoroughfare. These people all own vehicles so it's their road just as much as yours to use. Yoga is exercise just as bicycling and walking so your options are to wait until the class concludes or cross a double yellow line into oncoming traffic to go around them. Keep in mind you can and probably will be ticketed for crossing the yellow line if a LEO observes you..

Second, actually happened to me today. Following a cement truck for at least 2 miles going 20 MPH in a 45 and was starting to wonder if the driver was having some kind of medical emergency. Finally traffic clears and because of the pedal toy (thanks BBIs) and the width of his vehicle he's forced at least 4 feet over the double yellow to safely pass the bike and continue on at a normal speed. I am also forced over the double yellow to safely pass the biker or I could have continued on at 20 MPH for who knows how long. Not really the biker's fault but there's simply no room to pass even one bike safely without forcing motorists to break the law by crossing the double yellow.. It seems you think it's acceptable for me to chance a traffic fine (or head on collision) for you to get some exercise I think you should think again how inconsiderate and dangerous your behavior is for everyone involved. Just my .02

Sounds like you hate cyclist, cement trucks and yoga.

 

[foszoe]

I have my moments.
Not many
But some

I think we know one of your great passions now!

 

[jamil]

I actually agree with everything you said.

When I talk about bikes stopping for stop signs, I'm honestly not too hung up on whether it's a full stop, a rolling stop, or a slow-down-and-see-if-anyone's-coming-and-if-not-go-for-it. I just generally think it's a bad idea to have setups where motor vehicles are presumed to come to a stop and yield to cyclists, unless the cyclist is going through a green light or something, of course.

A major reason we have rules of the road is so that everyone else on the road can kinda predict what you're gonna do. That's a big problem for cyclists because if you're generally following the rules of the road, they only kinda know what you might do, because they don't know if you even see them. They may have the right of way, but if you don't see them, you won't necessarily behave predictably.

On a bicycle it is a PITA to stop. Not just because of having to reestablish momentum. It takes a bit of time to get back up to speed. Got cars behind you getting impatient.

 

[jamil]

Even when I do, I don't dare tell him!

The other day you wanted to kiss me.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

On a bicycle it is a PITA to stop. Not just because of having to reestablish momentum. It takes a bit of time to get back up to speed. Got cars behind you getting impatient.

Kinda like an underpowered 4-cylinder car. So should those with 4-cylinder cars get to blow through stop signs too?

 

[jamil]

I think the group rides are the worst. "Simulating the Tour de France" in Mayberry RFD is pretty much going to earn you prick of the year. That's why I quit and switched to MTB. I was the only person left in my group who had never cracked a helmet. When my best cycling bud got decked by an old dude in an SUV running a red light, and couldn't remember entire sections of his life, that was my wake-up call. Motorists with cellphones got crossed off my **** list and replaced by piles of horse turds, walnuts covered by leaves, and my own lack of competence. The Future of Cycling now weighs 31 pounds, and I'm good with it

I live on a hilly, curvy, narrow country-ish road. And it doesn't really have any berm. You got road. And then you got ditch. So for bicycles there really isn't anywhere to pull off or to swerve in an emergency.

So. The wannabe Tour De France groups really really likes to cycle on my road because steep hills and curves and countryside are challenging and interesting. They're putting their lives at risk, seriously.

People drive their HD trucks pulling heavy trailers speeding up and down that road every day, and they don't really bother to think about what lane they're currently occupying or what lane you're currently occupying. I've been in so many close calls in a motor-vehicle on this road, it's ridiculous. Cyclists have every right to cycle this road, even in packs. But someone's gonna get killed. They're ****ing crazy for cycling that road for fun.

 

[jamil]

That goes without saying.

I mean, he won't be able to fit his head thru doorways

I'm an engineer. I can make it fit.

 

[jamil]

Come on now.
That's a bridge too far

Eh. I got bad knees. I quit cycling because afterwards my knees ached. So my wife got the bright idea during covid that I could start riding again if I got an e-bike. And it's ugly. But I like it. It's enabled me to enjoy it again.

 

[jamil]

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Bwahahah. I still cycle in the Winter on good weather days. We don't get much snow around here.

 

[foszoe]

The other day you wanted to kiss me.

It's a love hate relationship

 

[jamil]

Kinda like an underpowered 4-cylinder car. So should those with 4-cylinder cars get to blow through stop signs too?

Don't they already?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Don't they already?

Nope.