PSAs own G**** 19 Clone! PS9 Dagger!

[NHT3]

PSA continues to impress me. I get that not all their guns are bet your life on it quality, but I've always loved their mission of trying to arm Americans to the teeth for as little money out of pocket as possible. Just yesterday they sold a M&P 2.0 Compact 15+1 with night sights for $350 shipped. Now they've got their own version of the glock out there and I'd be willing to bet that it'll have a few bugs to gets worked out, but 3 years from now they'll be on their Gen 5 version of it where it took Glock decades to get to their Gen 5. There's always going to be a Glock in the market, but the writing is on the wall that they seem to be going the way Colt did where they come up with an innovative design once and milk it for decades until the market is flooded with cheap knockoffs and design improvements they should have implemented themselves.

I hope this new PSA plastic gun is in the same catagory of quality as a glock or M&P. Time and youtube will tell.

I've been shooting and carrying Glocks for years and had a Shadow systems long enough to decide it didn't suit me. Over 1000 rounds through a couple of Daggers and I'm convinced it's as reliable as a Glock or SS and engineered better in some respects than either. YYMV.
Parabellum has several versions in stock and on the rental wall but anyone that knows me and wants to run some rounds through one PM me and we will get together.

 

[NHT3]

Looking at the pics, clearly they are pushing you to put glass on it.

Despite that, I'm still in.

Pretty sure those aren't factory sights and why would anyone want them that tall with no optic cut? Puzzling picture.

 

[teddy12b]

I've been shooting and carrying Glocks for years and had a Shadow systems long enough to decide it didn't suit me. Over 1000 rounds through a couple of Daggers and I'm convinced it's as reliable as a Glock or SS and engineered better in some respects than either. YYMV.
Parabellum has several versions in stock and on the rental wall but anyone that knows me and wants to run some rounds through one PM me and we will get together.

That's exactly what I'm hoping to hear more of. The idea that I can get a PSA Dagger with night sights for under $400 is very tempting to me.

 

[DadSmith]

Finally finished testing my Dagger. Passed with a minor 2-3 minute fix which I documented up thread. Other than that it's been perfect.
I just added a RDS to it today to begin my training using an RDS on an EDC type gun.
Need to shoot it in and start learning.
I plan on doing a bunch of draws from the holster, and learn where I need to move it to see the circle dot. Then start shooting.

The RDS is a Tacticon Predator V4 .
The dot and circle dot is very clear even with my astigmatism.

Predator V4 Compact Reflex Red Dot Sight For Pistol or Rifle

The Tacticon Predator V4 Compact Reflex Red Dot Sight for pistols and tactical rifles features 3 reticles, 50k hrs battery life, shake-awake and auto-off.

tacticon.com

 

[cg21]

Pretty sure those aren't factory sights and why would anyone want them that tall with no optic cut? Puzzling picture.

For a suppressor

Finally finished testing my Dagger. Passed with a minor 2-3 minute fix which I documented up thread. Other than that it's been perfect.
I just added a RDS to it today to begin my training using an RDS on an EDC type gun.
Need to shoot it in and start learning.
I plan on doing a bunch of draws from the holster, and learn where I need to move it to see the circle dot. Then start shooting.
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The RDS is a Tacticon Predator V4 .
The dot and circle dot is very clear even with my astigmatism.

Predator V4 Compact Reflex Red Dot Sight For Pistol or Rifle

The Tacticon Predator V4 Compact Reflex Red Dot Sight for pistols and tactical rifles features 3 reticles, 50k hrs battery life, shake-awake and auto-off.

tacticon.com

Wow that thing is good looking

 

[NHT3]

I talked AllenM into doing a little work on one of mine and prettying it up. Came out exactly as I wanted, typical Allen job, and works even better than before.

 

[DadSmith]

I talked AllenM into doing a little work on one of mine and prettying it up. Came out exactly as I wanted, typical Allen job, and works even better than before.

A thin blue line pistol?

If you look at the Tacticon Predator V4 it's very slim and I'm thinking you could probably see the iron sights with standard hight sights with a direct mount like the Dagger has.

 

[NHT3]

A thin blue line pistol?

If you look at the Tacticon Predator V4 it's very slim and I'm thinking you could probably see the iron sights with standard hight sights with a direct mount like the Dagger has.

Never heard of it, looks like a SRO knockoff. Do you have any experience with the company?

 

[DadSmith]

Never heard of it, looks like a SRO knockoff. Do you have any experience with the company?

Yes Jake is good people.
Excellent customer service as well.
So far what I've bought off him has been decent. I had a 3x magnifiers that I was having problems trying to adjust it.
I emailed him as I can't hear on the phone, and he shipped a new one out over night told me to send the old one back with the included box and label he was sending with the new 3x.
He didn't demand the old one first which is a great business model I thought.
My nephew has it now and still no problems with it.

I'll let you know how this MRDS works out.
Only thing I don't like about it is the sight has to be removed to put in a new battery. Other than that it's as clear as my Holosun Hs507c x2.

 

[zachcz]

Picked up another to tinker with. Would love to swap frames or slide for a two
Tone look

 

[DadSmith]

Picked up another to tinker with. Would love to swap frames or slide for a two
Tone look

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https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-dagger-complete-slide-assembly-with-threaded-barrel-extreme-carry-cut-xl-tall-sights-black-dlc.html

$190

 

[zachcz]

I keep eyeing them but don’t want to put anymore money in it. Trying to be as cheap as possible but if I can’t find someone to swap I’m going to get an fde slide I believe

 

[DadSmith]

I bought a Lone Wolf 3.5lb connector, 6lb trigger spring, and Wolff XP 6lb Striker Spring.
I also have the original PSA Striker Spring, and went ahead and bought the 3 pack of Lone Wolf Striker Springs.

With the LW 3.5lb connector, and 6lb trigger spring installed I tested several different Striker springs.

The PSA Striker spring was 6.75lb avg pull.
No picture sorry. Didn't think about it until after I tested it.

The lightweight LW spring was a little over 4.25lb avg pull



The Wolff Springs XP 6lb Striker Spring was actually the best believe that or not with an avg pull of just over 4lbs. So that is what I went with.

 

[MrGiggles]

I have a primary arms mini reflex on my PSA dagger and it keeps coming loose every 100-200 rounds. I've tried putting blue loctite on the threads, but that didn't seem to help. Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix it?

 

[gregkl]

I have a primary arms mini reflex on my PSA dagger and it keeps coming loose every 100-200 rounds. I've tried putting blue loctite on the threads, but that didn't seem to help. Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix it?

Are you getting the oil off the screws and the threaded holes? Probably are but wanted to make sure.

Also, just a reminder to let it sit for 24 hours to cure.

I have had screw heads strip trying to remove screws that were blue loctited so it should work.

 

[zachcz]

Was able to swap slides with a member. I’m not an optic fan in 9mm. The Holosun now sits on a 22 I plink with. Quick range session when I got it and it was fine. Hoping to put more rounds through today. I like the full size grip better so will get one again but do like the green and fde combo here

 

[DadSmith]

Was able to swap slides with a member. I’m not an optic fan in 9mm. The Holosun now sits on a 22 I plink with. Quick range session when I got it and it was fine. Hoping to put more rounds through today. I like the full size grip better so will get one again but do like the green and fde combo here

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I definitely like a full size grip much better.
I bought the Dagger FS just to learn how to shoot with a RDS. I actually like it after tinkering with it to get it to my liking.
I wonder if PSA sent me to strong of a connector and I don't get why changing both PSA Striker spring and connector brought down my trigger pull weight by around 3lbs.
After switching to the LW 3.5lb connector it dropped it from 7lb + pull to around 6.75lb pull with the PSA Striker spring.
I put in the XP Wolff Spring, and it actually came out the best, yet hits the primers the hardest of all the Springs I tested.
I'm at a loss as to way.

 

[DadSmith]

Got to shoot in my MRDS on my Dagger today.
I used Summit City coated RN 147gr and 4.2gr AutoComp COL: 1.100. Avg velocity 961fps.
Zero range of 15yds.

Here I the ballistics for this zero range.
Out to 50yds it is on target.



I shot it another 80rds today. What a huge difference having a 4lb trigger vs the 7lb it came with. Highly recommend Lone Wolf 3.5lb connector, 6lb trigger spring, and Wolff Springs XP Striker spring. That is my current set up.

 

[kawtech87]

I shot a buddies Dagger over the weekend. Honestly I was not impressed. The mag release was super stiff and the grip just didn't feel right to me. It also was the only pistol to malfunction during the whole day of shooting. To be fair they were all stovepipes and probably due to limp wristing by fairly new shooters Except the two that happened to my Army veteran friend I'm thinking those were ammo related.

 

[bjenkins]

I actually have four Daggers, hundreds of rounds downrange with not a single failure!