Trump 2024 ???

[TheTrooper]

This Desantis?

 

[TheTrooper]

 

[Ingomike]

Which the joint session of Congress did not, and clearly was not going to, vote to do so.

So, Trump wanted Pence to act unilaterally, and unconstitutionally. Because, , he had lost under the existing rules, so change the rules all had agreed to, AND HE HAD SWORN AN OATH TO UPHOLD, for his desired outcome.

12th Amendment... The President of the Senate's (Pence's) only role is to open and count the electors ballots. He presides, he does not "rule".

Well your constitutional scholars say one thing, mine say another. What mine say certain are no more changing the rules than dozens of SCOTUS decisions. But he did not ask Pence to appoint him, that is flat out fabrication.

 

[Ingomike]

It solidified my vote for DeSantis in the primary if he runs. IMO DeSantis is a true conservative. Trump is not, but he does seem to want America strong instead of where it is today.

Just curious, what anchors your beliefs that Desantis is a ”true conservative“? I do not know if he is or isnt. His bio and supporters give me pause. Yale, Harvard, and GFG…

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Well your constitutional scholars say one thing, mine say another. What mine say certain are no more changing the rules than dozens of SCOTUS decisions.

Here's the 12th Amendment that established the electoral college. The role of the Vice President as President of the Senate is solely to open and count the ballots from the states. That he has the arbitrary power to not count the ones Trump didn't like is nowhere to be found.

Amendment XII

The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President--The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

But he did not ask Pence to appoint him, that is flat out fabrication.

Fine, he demanded that Pence reject the electors' ballots from certain states, to NOT COUNT them, so that he could be appointed president by members of Congress, since neither he nor Biden would have a majority of the appointed electors.

And that, to a tee, is what he wanted Pence, and then the members of Congress, to do.

And it's the reason he will NEVER again get my vote.

 

[asevans]

Here's the 12th Amendment that established the electoral college. The role of the Vice President as President of the Senate is solely to open and count the ballots from the states. That he has the arbitrary power to not count the ones Trump didn't like is nowhere to be found.

Amendment XII

The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President--The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.


Fine, he demanded that Pence reject the electors' ballots from certain states, to NOT COUNT them, so that he could be appointed president by members of Congress, since neither he nor Biden would have a majority of the appointed electors.

And that, to a tee, is what he wanted Pence, and then the members of Congress, to do.

And it's the reason he will NEVER again get my vote.

Several states had electors for each candidate. Some electors for trump were shut out at the state level.
Several senators were going protest and call for a ten day investigation of the election.
Pence is a joke. Deep state hack.
Trump stepped down peacefully. Gave power over to the communist.
I believe he should have seized the machines in several of the most obvious cities. The ones where there was more votes than registered voters. The ones where on camera the commies were stuffing ballots. The ones where white republican pole watchers were kicked out of the vote counting centers by Democrat commies. Trump won in a land slide.
If you can’t see the election fraud in 2020 and now in 2022 than you don’t want to. It is happening. Right now it is happening. The media is on on it. Including Fox.
Nobody splits there vote like happened in this election. If you think so then you are stupid, blind, brainwashed.

 

[jamil]

Well, the 8th day add was just a riff on Paul Harveys "so God made a farmer".

It came off like a lead balloon though. I think it was a joke. But he'd have been better off without it. People think he was pandering to Christians.

 

[jamil]

Here's the 12th Amendment that established the electoral college. The role of the Vice President as President of the Senate is solely to open and count the ballots from the states. That he has the arbitrary power to not count the ones Trump didn't like is nowhere to be found.

Amendment XII

The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President--The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.


Fine, he demanded that Pence reject the electors' ballots from certain states, to NOT COUNT them, so that he could be appointed president by members of Congress, since neither he nor Biden would have a majority of the appointed electors.

And that, to a tee, is what he wanted Pence, and then the members of Congress, to do.

And it's the reason he will NEVER again get my vote.

So Trump vs Harris. You just not votin'?

 

[jamil]

Well your constitutional scholars say one thing, mine say another. What mine say certain are no more changing the rules than dozens of SCOTUS decisions. But he did not ask Pence to appoint him, that is flat out fabrication.

Or just hyperbole. The VP does not have the power to do what Trump demanded him to do. If the VP did have that power, then why wouldn't EVERY Democrat use it to prevent Republicans from ever taking office. With the cover of the media, and big tech censorship, they could probably get away with it. We've learned Democrats can get away with a lot of **** when they're fighting paper Nazis.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

So Trump vs Harris. You just not votin'?

Not for either of them.

 

[BugI02]

4 percenter

 

[ancjr]

This Desantis?

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Genesis 12:3 fulfilled.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Fine, he demanded that Pence reject the electors' ballots from certain states, to NOT COUNT them, so that he could be appointed president by members of Congress, since neither he nor Biden would have a majority of the appointed electors.

How much I've forgotten in 2 years...

Trump wanted Pence to accept FAKE electors for him from several states instead of the state certified slates for Biden...

I retract my retraction... Trump absolutely wanted Pence to appoint him President based on fake electoral votes.

4 percenter

Why do any of us need to vote? Trump can just submit all of the electoral votes for himself. Right?!?!?

Or is it Harris that can do that Jan 6th 2024?

 

[foszoe]

He going to announce something he should have done 2 years ago. Forming the MAGA party. All good R are welcome to join and the Rhinos can now put the D in front of their name.
Or he’s running for Speaker.

Maybe he is gonna run as a Libertarian

 

[TheTrooper]

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Genesis 12:3 fulfilled.

I am thinking more like Revelation 2:9

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Several states had electors for each candidate. Some electors for trump were shut out at the state level.

Out of those state, how many had more than one set of electors that were selected according to state law?

 

[ancjr]

I am thinking more like Revelation 2:9

We'll all know who was right soon enough.

 

[Twangbanger]

He going to announce something he should have done 2 years ago. Forming the MAGA party. All good R are welcome to join and the Rhinos can now put the D in front of their name.
Or he’s running for Speaker.

...Smiling to myself while imagining your bro IO2 showing up at VFW meetings with a Ross Perot "United We Stand" MAGA card in his wallet...

 

[indykid]

If Trump really wanted to do something for this country, and it does seem he loves this country, he would ditch his overinflated ego and throw his support behind the current republican darling, Ron DeSantis. Watch the news media explode!

 

[bwframe]

I like the idea of Trump as Speaker Of The House...

"What have you got to lose?"