The original one of the newer one? They changed it and the second one is easier.I ran the Air Marshal qualification test with a Glock 19. I couldn't pass stage 4. 7 was pretty tough as well
The original one of the newer one? They changed it and the second one is easier.I ran the Air Marshal qualification test with a Glock 19. I couldn't pass stage 4. 7 was pretty tough as well
The original one. The new one is a jokeThe original one of the newer one? They changed it and the second one is easier.
Yea unfortunately several agencies have watered down their COF. The one I retired from had a new COF they were trying to get approved but it had a stage with head shots that the Agency Attorney was wrapped around the axel.The original one. The new one is a joke
That really stinks. I hate to see these courses simplified. Can you share the original one? I'm always looking for new quals to tryYea unfortunately several agencies have watered down their COF. The one I retired from had a new COF they were trying to get approved but it had a stage with head shots that the Agency Attorney was wrapped around the axel.
Guess he didn’t realize he special teams and supers did head shots as their annual certification the last 25 years but line staff it’s too much!
I'm still trying to wrap my head around scoring this. I'm not too well versed in the use of my shot timer.That is how I understand it.
AFAIK you will have to do it the first way you describe. There are probably some shot timers you could wrangle into recording all of the strings, but to my knowledge that is not the case with the ones I use, including the Pocket Pro 2. I would not be adverse to being proven wrong. I typically just make a mental note of it and track it at the end of the string as I am not quite that picky.I'm still trying to wrap my head around scoring this. I'm not too well versed in the use of my shot timer.
Looking at the first string: Do I shoot rep #1, check my timer and if over par, deduct the point and log it. Then rep # 2 and so on?
Or can I shoot all 10 reps and somehow access the timer history and record them after I finish the string?
I have a Pocket Pro II timer.
This is how I built my spreadsheet to track progress: Any suggestions?
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I write down the time and hits under par after every string. It is tedious but least prone to mental and recording errors etc...I believe accurate recording is important to tracking performance over time.I'm still trying to wrap my head around scoring this. I'm not too well versed in the use of my shot timer.
Looking at the first string: Do I shoot rep #1, check my timer and if over par, deduct the point and log it. Then rep # 2 and so on?
Or can I shoot all 10 reps and somehow access the timer history and record them after I finish the string?
I have a Pocket Pro II timer.
This is how I built my spreadsheet to track progress: Any suggestions?
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Nice work. I have to recheck my math on the Pistol IQ test as my numbers are pretty close to yours. I should not have figured it out at the range. I will recheck and adjust my post if required.Once again feeding off of this thread, and MVS in particular, I gave the Pistol IQ standards a try. I'm working two jobs now and spare time is going to family so dry fire doesn't happen anymore and it is certainly showing. Deliberate but slow using this as a cold test from concealment.
Half Test - 50 in 4.28 (25 toward score)
D2 - 2A in 1.74 (1.49 after concealment bonus and a 6.71 HF)
Bill - 6A in 3.19(2.94 after concealment bonus and a 10.2 HF)
Transitions - 5A in 3.03(2.78 after concealment bonus and 8.99HF)
Throttle - 6A in 4.02(3.77 after concealment bonus and 7.95 HF)
58.85(HF's plus half of the test score) x2 = 117.7 Pistol IQ (high B)
Interesting test to add and chase for a little bit maybe. I messed up the math initially (didn't half the test score nor did I x2 that for final) and generally prefer simpler scoring methodology but now that I have it figured out it's fine. I particularly like the Throttle stage as I find lots of benefit in changing gears type drills.
After this I ran a variety of things that utilized the 3 target array. A modified triple nickel (4.74 with 4 C's), hack heads (clean under par on all strings), hack heads sho from the holster (7/9 points with 1 being outside par and 1 miss), and hack heads who from the ready (7/9 1 over par and 1 miss).
I wasn't happy with my cold draw performance so I worked it to a high percentage target for a bit (lower A) and steadily worked it down until the wheels fell off. My last draw was a .98 but it was purely from index and I did not have a dot in the window, simply a hail mary just to see what happened. The rest of them were 1.2x-1.3x with a few 1.1x.
Next we put up LTT targets and I ran a 96 on the 15 yard string of the advanced supertest from HITS. A magazine of d3 to the 4" circle using a 2.5 par (first string of the 99) were all under par and had 1 out. We finished with a modified version of the garcia dot drill. Instead of starting at 7 we chose to start at 3 and do a walkback with every clean run to scale it to my shooting partners ability. I got sloppy and dropped a shot each on the first two runs at 3 then passed the third attempt. The next three runs were all at 5 without success. To end the day I did two attempts of the original string (6 in 5 at 7) and i dropped 2 each try and went over par on 1. Great and challenging drill. Certainly makes you focus hard on a perfect press at relative speed and forces a good solid grip. Much easier with a dot than when I used to run it with irons though.
I hope we keep feeding and pushing each other in this thread as my other gun related haunts are a bit stale in that regard as of late and I'm enjoying it here. Reminiscent of days of old when it was par for the course at my regular hangout. I hope the others participating in this thread are getting as much from it as I am and that others decide to join in and keep it going.
D is for draw, R reload.So I need to learn more about the "lingo" of drills. What does D5 and the like mean? I'm thinking it's 5 shots, but what does the "D" stand for?
Same with Hack Heads and Triple Nickel.
Doh! Sometimes I underwhelm myself.D is for draw, R reload.
The only good woodchuck is a dead woodchuck.This was my last drill, 3 weeks ago
1. Chase groundhog for about 20 yards because I knew where he was going. Also gets the heart rate up.
2. Draw
3. Fire 2 shots at 30 feet. Not sure which one hit him but at that range and that small of moving target I'm happy.
4. Holster weapon.
5. Gloat to the wife that "another one bites the dust"
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Names of specific drills and tests.So I need to learn more about the "lingo" of drills. What does D5 and the like mean? I'm thinking it's 5 shots, but what does the "D" stand for?
Same with Hack Heads and Triple Nickel.