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  • JCSR

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    Short of mumbling out loud that you're going to use the gun to shoot someone, it's not that hard to act normal enough for the 15 minutes it takes to do the background check.
    He probably could have bought one from the trunk of a car and saved time and trouble. Results would be the same.
     

    The Bubba Effect

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    He had the politically correct skin color and was already a felon, so of course O'bummer would still have him up on a pedestal. Voter base, donchaknow.

    Absolutely. His kind of pitch really resonates with white folks who feel guilty because they are overpaid, mail it in at work and don't really contribute much to society.

    That is pretty much the financial and spiritual backbone of the Democrat party.
     

    KG1

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    There is nothing racial about the Texas murders.
    Yep. Have to keep introducing the racial thing to the forefront even where it doesn't belong even if you have to step over dead children to keep it alive. Totally despicable if Obama did indeed wedge that post about Floyd in when the national attention is focused on the loss of those children and teachers., He should be publicly called to task for it far and wide.
     
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    littletommy

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    I have wondered what kind of vibes he put off when purchasing his weapons . I can`t see how this Sick **** was able to present himself as a " proper person " to the gun shop staff . I assume just because someone answers all the 4473 questions correctly ( even after possibly lying ) , that a seller still reserves the right to not sell if something doesn`t seem right ? ( Or is it about the almighty dollar )
    Would love to at least see some possible videos on the days he purchased his guns .
    Not trying to blame the gun shops ....I`m just still dissecting ,what seems like a lot of failed practices .
    I have refused sales to people who just “didn’t seem right”. Every FFL that I personally know has.

    Some people can pull it off, some can’t. Occasionally it happens that a customer acts perfectly fine, and answers all questions on the 4473 correctly, and truthfully, and 20 minutes later they blow their brains out.
     

    rooster

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    I have refused sales to people who just “didn’t seem right”. Every FFL that I personally know has.

    Some people can pull it off, some can’t. Occasionally it happens that a customer acts perfectly fine, and answers all questions on the 4473 correctly, and truthfully, and 20 minutes later they blow their brains out.
    Thank you!

    Some people complain about ffl’s doing stuff like this but who knows what kind of off vibes you might be getting from someone.
     

    Super Bee

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    Reports are saying that the shooter walked in thru an unlocked door unencumbered. First line of defense. FAIL. If you can't even do basic things like securing entrances, when children are in school then you have failed.


    And attorneys in Texas are lining up.
     

    DadSmith

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    Simple steps do work.

    Keycard locks on doors. Don't open the door for strangers--EVER.

    Keep classroom doors closed and locked during class time. Make sure someone on the outside of the classroom actually belongs in it before opening it for them.

    Funnel all outsiders through the main doors where office folks can buzz them in and vouch for them before they get even close to run of the building.

    Yes, those are all an inconvenience, and at times a pain in the butt. Beats the alternative when crazy can just walk in though.

    Keep armed officerS In. The. Schools. One good guy with a gun can't be everywhere in the whole building/campus at the same time. If your darling snowflake kid is afraid of armed cops in the school then teach them not to be, or better yet homeschool them. Every officer I've met in a school has always been polite, respectful, and honestly wanted to be there to enhance staff/student safety. Maybe this is just in the schools I've been in, but I'm willing to make this a generalization and stand behind it.

    With all the $$ floating around seemingly doing very little, I'd LOVE to see some of it put to work hardening windows on the first floors and replacing glass doors/entrances with at minimum ballistic-resistant glass that wouldn't fail immediately when shot at. And let's face it, 1-way reflective coatings aren't all that expensive, but they do work. Coat every glass surface at the ground floor. If targets can't be seen, it's much harder to hit them.

    Then if you really want to get to brass tacks, offer some intensive training for those who'd like to become on-site sheep dogs instead of mandatory sheep. Make it a weed-out kind of training even, so only those with real physical and mental ability get the training. Even keep the names of those who took/passed the training a secret so the student population doesn't know for sure who is/isn't carrying. Put doubt into the minds of those sick enough to try. Make it risky enough that they can't be sure they'll actually get anything accomplished before getting neutralized.

    Generally, taking a proactive approach is always going to be better than tears and hand-wringing after "hoping it won't happen here" fails horribly.
    If we can send Ukraine 40 billion dollars I'm sure we can spend at least that much to hire and arm well trained security for our schools.

    Biden is more concerned with boys being able to go into girls restrooms apparently.
     

    Ger0n1mo

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    I worked for three corporations in 7 buildings in the 40 years of employment before retirement. Most of the buildings were only accessible by a key card. The others had one visitor door that were maintained (guarded) by security personnel. This seems like such as simple concept for schools to enforce. This takes care of not only the incident this week, but also kidnappings (like custody issues) and other unwanted people.
     

    Hkindiana

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    I worked for three corporations in 7 buildings in the 40 years of employment before retirement. Most of the buildings were only accessible by a key card. The others had one visitor door that were maintained (guarded) by security personnel. This seems like such as simple concept for schools to enforce. This takes care of not only the incident this week, but also kidnappings (like custody issues) and other unwanted people.
    Then you get people putting a rock in the door so they can take a quick smoke break, or so a “friend” can get in. There needs to be severe consequences for not using proper security. Whomever left that door unlocked should be immediately fired.
     

    Ark

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    Just seen this article

    Jesus the lies keep stacking up. What's next, the two cops who "exchanged fire" with the shooter in the school and were injured actually stubbed their toes getting out of the cruiser and never went in at all? Because we've gone from "defeated in a heroic gunfight" to "they heard gunfire and ran away to cover and did nothing after that but wait".

    12 minutes of indiscriminate gunfire outside and he was able to enter an open classroom and lock the door behind him? A door that stopped police for an hour? Were the teachers asleep?

    That press conference was a disaster for the police. You can see it. They screwed up bad, kids are dead as a result, and he knows it.

    Oh, well. Lucky them, SCOTUS has made it pretty clear that cowardice and failure in the line of duty is not subject to liability.
     

    MCgrease08

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    What's next, the two cops who "exchanged fire" with the shooter in the school and were injured actually stubbed their toes getting out of the cruiser and never went in at all?
    No, It's even worse. There never were two cops. They never exchanged gunfire with the suspect.

     

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    Cameramonkey

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    And now Daniel Defense has pulled out of the NRA convention. This crap only feeds into the notion that they are somehow responsible, which of course they are not.

    Agreed. Does Ford pull out of an auto show because of a drunk driver? No.

    Man up and stand up.
     
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