I don’t feel safe

[frenchiectfd2203]

I’m not looking to carry outside of my house but I’m mainly concerned with when I’m at home. They know where I live.

The only other thing I can tell you is to untuck your pecker... other than that... good luck.

 

[Jaybird1980]

I’ve went to the police with my issue there’s wanna-be thugs “beefing” with me at least that’s what they said. I’m a cna I don’t do drugs or anything like that I dated this girl and I guess she was mixed up with them. I didn’t know about any of that to begin with but then she dumped me and seemingly disappeared and now these guys are expecting something from me. I’m not looking to carry just looking for quick easy and self defense. Any suggestions?

Couple questions.

Are you Male or Female? (I'm assuming Male)

How old are you?
Height and weight and any ability to fight if the need arises?

 

[Damienabbadon]

most of them are...lol. but maybe the thugs don't know that. he'll at least let you know if someone's around (unless he's taking a nap). Security system?

Yeah had my brother test that kinda he came over unannounced and I heard him on the stairs before buddy did

 

[Damienabbadon]

Pick better partners is a start.
been where you are. These freaky chicks go out in search of and tell there buddy’s about soft targets which apparently you are one.
they push the edges And if you fold they beat you ass and take your
Not opting to actually defend yourself will keep you a soft target in there eyes.
It’s a life style.

Okay so I know to a lot of you I sound like a soft target but I read over the rules and I’m not 100% sure if I’d be in trouble for being completely open. What I can say can and probably will only be speculation I’m already pretty smart I’m skilled with a lot of stuff and I get bored but I knew I needed to start doing good so I became a cna to help people instead of the opposite but I wanted to get suggestions cause well I know that to claim self defense typically you need to be “equal” so you can’t kill someone or injure them with a gun if they have a knife I don’t know if that’s true or not since the officers I used to talk to are retired but idk I just stay paranoid and want to hear everyone’s ideas and I love it thank you all for talking and voicing your opinions I love the suggestions and I’ll post updates

 

[Damienabbadon]

You don't want to carry but you come to a site called INDIANA GUN OWNERS.
Might just be me but that seems strange. What exactly are you looking for?

You’re right that seems a little strange and it’s because I’m mainly at home. They know where I live and you don’t need your LTCH at home and you don’t need one to transport after buying one but the end game is to bounce ideas from people that can see a new angle and I seen this as a logical decision due to the situation at hand all the knives I have could help if I had special training but I don’t I just have knives but I have training with guns I know the basics and how to take them apart and how to use them along with knowledge of the human anatomy a bullet is almost as precise as a knife just long range and faster of course that’s not including shotguns unless your using slugs but again besides the point I am looking to buy a gun but I’ve been given a lot of opinions on caliber and everything and I wanted to see the popular opinion I apologize that everything is out of wack when you read this if you do I have adhd and I’m all over the place along with my nerves in my mind what I’m looking for is complicated but that’s probably because I’m overthinking what I’m looking for

 

[Damienabbadon]

You did not say how old you are or your physical condition. If you are an old fart (like me), a simple walking sick or wooden cane makes a wonderful self defense weapon without being obvious. Properly used , you can disable an opponent in seconds. And you can take it anywhere (even on a plane or federal building) and still have the ability to defend yourself if needed. But you need to get some training and practice with it to become proficient. Look up Cane Fighting on You Tube and you will see what I mean.

I have adhd so I’m all over the place on stuff and I already own a cane due to nerve damage from getting hit by a car and I’m only 20 and even before this happened I was big on self preservation

 

[Damienabbadon]

Fox spray is a nasty beast..but unless they are trained in getting sprayed any decent spray will let you get away(if applied before they get you and while you moving). They will then be expecting that and if they know where you work/live a firearm is the only option if you aren't athletic/coordinated enough to fight with a knife.

Ironically I have plenty of knives and I understand the concept of CQC I used to charade as a well “vigilante “ and I wanted to stop cause I realized it’s just a childish “dream” not sure how to describe it but yeah.

 

[Damienabbadon]

I would txt the GF that dumped you and ask her what it's gonna take to get out of this.

At the same time, be preparing to move to a better location. You'll always be afraid where you are, so you gotta go.

Start over in a better location, with a better plan to train to not be afraid.

Doesn’t sound like a bad idea thank you unfortunately I tried contacting her and anyone that was a mutual contact no one knows and it makes me feel…. Incompetent due to lack of information ig and I don’t have the funds to disappear barely enough to buy protection maybe 600-700 to spare so I’d be 2000 short to buy out my rent contract and an additional 1000 to ensure moving and new resident fees

 

[Damienabbadon]

And after seeing several suggestions for a gun even thougg OP stat3d they were Against one, OP may not be a proper person, or may know himself well enough that a gun is not a good idea. (Temper, lack of self control, etc. ) not knocking OP or criticizing, just station legit reasons.

You’re not wrong as well as others owning is fine but I don’t feel the need to carry outside of my house there’s to many people around anywhere I go and I take precautions when I walk out my door it’s only when I’m home that concerns me and it’s not lack of control or temper I’m a relaxed type due to child hood trauma and I don’t like grudges they don’t make sense to me I’m one for words before action confrontation normally triggers my ptsd from the abuse but I coop with it pretty well since over the years it’s something you can’t always shy away from

 

[Damienabbadon]

You didn't mention wanting a gun. You did say you don't want to carry. So why come to a gun forum?

The best way to win a fight is to not get in one.

I’m not looking for a fight and I am looking to own a gun just not carry I see it as an unnecessary precaution in public If I learned anything in college or from the FBI recruiters I met most small time offenders like to keep to the shadows unless they are sending a message and I’m not much of a message not in my opinion anyways scaring me would have been as simple as showing they can get to me but I’ve noticed unusual people and cars and it could be parinoia but I think they’re watching me reading that makes me feel like I’m just paranoid now but I asked my neighbor to watch out and he said weird people have been coming around and asking about me so I don’t know I’m just looking to prepare for the worst and not going looking for it

 

[Damienabbadon]

Okay so I realized there’s a lot of common questions.I’m 20 years old, I’m 6’2”, I’ve done MMA, I went to college and majored in psychology, I’ve made friends with FBI recruiters and retired police officers. I always wanted to join the FBI but my child hood abuse or trauma threw my life for a loop, I’m not looking to carry in public I feel that the wanna-bes are not going to make a move in public but honestly I’ve been poking around in the dark and it’s not helping my paranoia. I was hit by a car and got Nerve damage so I own a cane but I don’t need it anymore due to physical therapy. I’m a cna and chose to start helping people instead of running around playing “hero” I have not elite training I got with pistols but I’m good with anything that doesn’t have a scope. I dont remember if I mentioned but I’m adhd and I’ve done alot of stuff learned alot of things. I understand alot of concepts about self defense. But I also understand the appropriate times for CQC. And for the record none of my experience or training is professional and everything is self taught and practiced from other basic Joe’s. No one has to believe the situation is the full thing because every story has pieces that fell through the cracks and I love the support the suggestions and the questions and I’d love for more to keep coming. If anyone wants to reach out beyond the forum and offer additional advice or more training I’d love for you to reach out. I can be contacted at **EDITED*** I understand that’s not a Terre Haute area code but I’m originally from south bend. And no I don’t have family not anymore I’ve lost most of them to drugs or natural causes.

 

[Damienabbadon]

Need more info. What did the police tell you? What specifically are they doing to you? Threats? Following you? Shoving? Making you lick dog poop like on Step Brothers?

This isn’t elementary school. Change your schedule or routine to avoid them. Move if you have to. As suggested make some friends. Get a big dog. Etc etc

I think they’re watching me I change my schedule regularly. I drive erratic when I feel that I’m being followed and im not good at making friends. No verbal threats have been made but they’ve flashed “dracos” I think that’s what they get called? AK no Stock? I got a pit bull now but he’s to friendly loves everyone doesn’t bark. And no immediate contact nothing physical and the police said they would file a report but nothing can really happen unless I have physical proof or names. Anything other than just words ig? I wasn’t taking everything in tbh all I got from the conversation was they can’t do anything until something happens.

 

[Damienabbadon]

Get a gun.
Learn how to use it.
Make sure of your options before you use it!

Thank you that’s pretty much why I’m here I’m hearing out my options while getting suggestions. And I know how to use anything without a scope.

 

[Damienabbadon]

Carry, because the "wanna be thugs" are going to be carrying and nothing quick or easy is going to measure up to that.

You live near Top Guns. They have a range on-site, regular group classes, and daily slots for one-on-one instructor time. Get yourself equipped and educated, then do your best to avoid the people in question and hope they get bored and move on.

That’s a great suggestion thank you and honestly that makes sense I don’t understand why I didn’t think about that fact why get caught slacking.

 

[Damienabbadon]

Ok,
you have associated with some bad Peps. You have to be mean as they are or shut up.

You need to be scared!

Note to self:
Do not pick fights with shady people without a way out!

I haven’t picked a fight and I wasn’t informed of anything to start with I didn’t find out until a week before everything happened I think? And this might sound like a contradiction but being scared isn’t something that settles with me I was scared of my abusers for most of my life and changed that I won’t pick a fight but I’m not looking to just roll over (not saying that’s what your implying I’m just stating)

 

[Damienabbadon]

I mean, not to crystal ball an OP who hasn't engaged in the responses so far, but coming to a gun forum indicates at least some receptiveness to the idea IMO.

I’m slowly responding I’m sorry I take so long I’m just well trying to go about life normally like I’m not being “hunted” I change routines daily and your right I’m receptive to owning carrying possible now I’ve seen convincing suggestions to why I should. Again I apologize about my responding.

 

[Damienabbadon]

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Looks like king of the hill is onto something lmao. Baby powder mixed with black pepper and curry is effective I’m just not sure about a good way to disperse it in a controlled manner. It seems that it spreads to far and if it’s crowded or there’s people who are innocent I’m not looking to blind anyone and would like to avoid collateral damage.

 

[Damienabbadon]

We are doomed...

Maybe not depending on what you mean by doomed. Are you meaning the generation, Humanity, or me? I’m looking for suggestions on protection using or firearms or other ways of self defense a gun is good for short to long range and anything that doesn’t involve a firearm lacks range but there’s a lot of things to sort through I’m also looking for caliber suggestions am I’m looking to Injure and give the chance to get back up or am I looking for something to knock them down and keep them there I’ve heard about 9mm being good for self defense two shots= damage but incapacity all the way to a .45 one shot and they won’t get up but with a chance that it’s permanent. Is it legal to kill an intruder/attacker in self defense or will it be considered manslaughter. If I beat them to an inch of life but they service with serious damage I can get Sued and I don’t have the money to fight the lawsuit and I’m not saying that’s a definite thing but it’ll always be on the table. I apologize if this seems erratic it’s adhd and being on edge.

 

[patience0830]

You’re right that seems a little strange and it’s because I’m mainly at home. They know where I live and you don’t need your LTCH at home and you don’t need one to transport after buying one but the end game is to bounce ideas from people that can see a new angle and I seen this as a logical decision due to the situation at hand all the knives I have could help if I had special training but I don’t I just have knives but I have training with guns I know the basics and how to take them apart and how to use them along with knowledge of the human anatomy a bullet is almost as precise as a knife just long range and faster of course that’s not including shotguns unless your using slugs but again besides the point I am looking to buy a gun but I’ve been given a lot of opinions on caliber and everything and I wanted to see the popular opinion I apologize that everything is out of wack when you read this if you do I have adhd and I’m all over the place along with my nerves in my mind what I’m looking for is complicated but that’s probably because I’m overthinking what I’m looking for

Relax a second. . .
Respect your reader and punctuate.
Overthinking? Perhaps.
Actions solve problems. Paralysis by analysis only keeps you from solving the problem. Make a choice for course of action then start on that course. Not choosing may get you hurt. Appearing, (or being) indecisive makes you appear weak and targetable.

 

[patience0830]

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