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  • KLB

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    In the vote, were they voting for her?
    Cause in the primaries, she didn't get diddly squat.
    Um..Clinton or Harris?

    Clinton was and probably still is very popular with Democrats.

    Harris was not. Thus Harris could be seen as being more hated than Clinton.

    I'm pretty sure Alpo was saying there was no way Harris could win an actual election for President.
     

    maxwelhse

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    I agree up until the moment they relied on government bail outs.

    I had my identity stolen in early 2009. Could not get conventional mortgage financing, so had to get a gubmit FHA loan at goofy interest rate or not buy a house. As my mortgage was processing, the "big" banks were bailed out. My mortgage was granted by some really tiny bank I'd never heard of. I made 1 payment... then the mortgage was solid to Citibank who was bailed out from FHA backed subprime loans a few weeks prior. They could not race fast enough to do it again.

    When it came time to sell my house, I screwed up and let it slip to my insurance agent that the house was mostly vacant (I took a job out of town). Agent caused me a massive PITA by cancelling my policy, writing a new/different one for "empty" houses, and notifying Citibank. Citibank immediately sold my mortgage (after over 10 years) because they knew the cash cow was over. So for like 45 days of payments, I had to set up all new billing and all of that crap with a new lender and deal with piles of paperwork from closing the old loan and opening the new one.

    I never had a choice in any of it. I learned in 2009 it was a scam, but how deep the rabbit hole went was interesting...

    Banks will do literally anything they want, to anyone they want, with no recourse at all, and no fear of any lasting repercussions. The one place I get perilously close to agreeing with commies is that the first people to be up against the wall if all falls apart will be the bankers.
     

    actaeon277

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    Um..Clinton or Harris?

    Clinton was and probably still is very popular with Democrats.

    Harris was not. Thus Harris could be seen as being more hated than Clinton.

    I'm pretty sure Alpo was saying there was no way Harris could win an actual election for President.
    Yup. I got mixed up.
    Harris didn't get squat for a vote.
    Don't know if I would call that "hatred", or just people didn't care about her.
     

    Tombs

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    I had my identity stolen in early 2009. Could not get conventional mortgage financing, so had to get a gubmit FHA loan at goofy interest rate or not buy a house. As my mortgage was processing, the "big" banks were bailed out. My mortgage was granted by some really tiny bank I'd never heard of. I made 1 payment... then the mortgage was solid to Citibank who was bailed out from FHA backed subprime loans a few weeks prior. They could not race fast enough to do it again.

    When it came time to sell my house, I screwed up and let it slip to my insurance agent that the house was mostly vacant (I took a job out of town). Agent caused me a massive PITA by cancelling my policy, writing a new/different one for "empty" houses, and notifying Citibank. Citibank immediately sold my mortgage (after over 10 years) because they knew the cash cow was over. So for like 45 days of payments, I had to set up all new billing and all of that crap with a new lender and deal with piles of paperwork from closing the old loan and opening the new one.

    I never had a choice in any of it. I learned in 2009 it was a scam, but how deep the rabbit hole went was interesting...

    Banks will do literally anything they want, to anyone they want, with no recourse at all, and no fear of any lasting repercussions. The one place I get perilously close to agreeing with commies is that the first people to be up against the wall if all falls apart will be the bankers.

    All of this is a great example of why I don't think private banks should be legal.

    We pay taxes to insure these banks and make sure the owners never have to sell their homes. While they jack interest rates, and get into risky lending knowing that they can simply steal money from the tax payers if something goes wrong. If our tax dollars are going to prop up banks, it'd be better served propping up a government bank that could provide extremely low interest to no interest loans and not be flipping your debt constantly to make a buck, and need bailed out.

    The way "private" banks operate in the US is absolutely inexcusable. You have all the downsides of a government owned bank, with none of the benefits of the private sector.

    Now if we could have private banking where they never saw a dime of tax dollars or government money, then that would be a very different discussion. I don't think that's possible after generations of this system teaching bankers how to game the system.
     

    maxwelhse

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    All of this is a great example of why I don't think private banks should be legal.

    We pay taxes to insure these banks and make sure the owners never have to sell their homes. While they jack interest rates, and get into risky lending knowing that they can simply steal money from the tax payers if something goes wrong. If our tax dollars are going to prop up banks, it'd be better served propping up a government bank that could provide extremely low interest to no interest loans and not be flipping your debt constantly to make a buck, and need bailed out.

    The way "private" banks operate in the US is absolutely inexcusable. You have all the downsides of a government owned bank, with none of the benefits of the private sector.

    Now if we could have private banking where they never saw a dime of tax dollars or government money, then that would be a very different discussion. I don't think that's possible after generations of this system teaching bankers how to game the system.

    Oof... The government almost always only makes things worse. What we should not have is a federal reserve bank (which does most of the manipulating you're talking about) or a government that bails out their buddies for making risky decisions backed with tax dollars. I also don't think we should have government backed loans at all. If you're such a bad risk that you're asking to borrow money from your neighbors because no one in their right mind would do it as a good investment, you're too bad of a risk to loan money to.

    I fully realize that as a prior user of that system I would have been denied a loan. I look to it on the contrary... If there weren't millions of idiots polluting the feedback loop with actual bad credit and bad financial history, they maybe they would have taken more than 15 seconds to look at me before the red rubber "denied" stamp came out. In my case, 2 of 3 credit reporting agencies "fixed the glitch", but Transunion (after months of trying) just refused to do so. It took them years to finally clean my report up. Any sane businessman would have looked at the situation and granted me a loan, and at the fairly predatory interest FHA gave me, without a problem.
     

    KittySlayer

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    How convenient for Biden that the hurricane blew in so big media can avoid covering the last day of this clusterf…

    I am surprised a plane has not been shot out of the sky yet. We left them plenty of weapons.
     

    BehindBlueI's

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    The real question is, if one were shot down would MSM cover it?

    That's the real question? Like they aren't covering rocket attacks, etc currently? Of course they will. This is a big ratings boost. People all of a sudden care again. If a plane got shot down, they'd be so stiff over it they wouldn't be able to walk out of the news room. They'd probably pass out due to lack of blood flow above the waist if they had good footage of it. Cover the event, sex it up with human interest/how does that make you feel with family of the victims, ramp up the controversy with 'this could have been prevented' and 'x vs y's fault' so everyone can play along at home. Maybe some feelz story with a dog sitting at the door waiting for Joe Snuffy to come home.

    Eff yes they'd cover it. Then they'd cover the other news outlets coverage. And have commentary about the commentary. Then give themselves awards for the commentary about the commentary about the other news outlets' coverage.
     

    KLB

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    That's the real question? Like they aren't covering rocket attacks, etc currently? Of course they will. This is a big ratings boost. People all of a sudden care again. If a plane got shot down, they'd be so stiff over it they wouldn't be able to walk out of the news room. They'd probably pass out due to lack of blood flow above the waist if they had good footage of it. Cover the event, sex it up with human interest/how does that make you feel with family of the victims, ramp up the controversy with 'this could have been prevented' and 'x vs y's fault' so everyone can play along at home. Maybe some feelz story with a dog sitting at the door waiting for Joe Snuffy to come home.

    Eff yes they'd cover it. Then they'd cover the other news outlets coverage. And have commentary about the commentary. Then give themselves awards for the commentary about the commentary about the other news outlets' coverage.
    So true. Rocket attacks followed the hurricane on ABC this morning.
     

    ditcherman

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    In the country, hopefully.
    That's the real question? Like they aren't covering rocket attacks, etc currently? Of course they will. This is a big ratings boost. People all of a sudden care again. If a plane got shot down, they'd be so stiff over it they wouldn't be able to walk out of the news room. They'd probably pass out due to lack of blood flow above the waist if they had good footage of it. Cover the event, sex it up with human interest/how does that make you feel with family of the victims, ramp up the controversy with 'this could have been prevented' and 'x vs y's fault' so everyone can play along at home. Maybe some feelz story with a dog sitting at the door waiting for Joe Snuffy to come home.

    Eff yes they'd cover it. Then they'd cover the other news outlets coverage. And have commentary about the commentary. Then give themselves awards for the commentary about the commentary about the other news outlets' coverage.
    And now Don Henley is in my head.


    That’d be “Dirty Laundry”, for you, Hatin.
     
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