Here come the Biden gun control EOs...

[BigRed]

And in Anderson:

Local law enforcement officials deem Biden actions reasonable

Apr. 10—ANDERSON — The two top law enforcement officials in Madison County expressed support for President Joe Biden's efforts to reduce gun violence. Biden issued executive orders Thursday to crack down on "ghost guns" and pistol-stabilizing braces. Biden's order addressed weapons made from 3D...

www.yahoo.com

Didn't realize the paper was owned by the same ones that own The Chicago Tribune. Also that the local LEO's in charge of Madison County were that stupid and leftist. Learn something new every day.

Yep...the commie ******** is so thick it os often overlooked as "normal".

 

[jamil]

Yep...the commie ******** is so thick it os often overlooked as "normal".

Oh yeah. All that violence with "ghost guns".

 

[BigRed]

Well, I think Lon Horiuchi is a murderer. A man who claimed he could hit a quarter at 200 yds, a highly trained sniper (supposedly) was so anxious to shoot Randy Weaver in the back and so unskilled, or single-focused, that he hurried a bad shot and killed Vicki Weaver as she held her baby behind the door Randy was trying to get to.

Know your target and what's beyond it? Likely never occurred to him or got lost in the bloodlust

Horiuchi can spend his eternity in a tortuous pit of Hell. Pure scum, but another "federal agent" that took an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the united States only to shred it, so I apologize for the redundancy.

 

[BigRed]

Ok, has anyone here supported his candidacy? I’m not, nor have I seen anyone else.

I have seen some here that support those who nominated the POS.

 

[DadSmith]

Everyone needs to send an email to their senator's with that picture of Chipman posing over the bodies of them people at Waco. Then ask how they can confirm an animal like him. About like confirming an SS officer at a concentration camp imo.

 

[KG1]

sociopaths/psychopaths, weird they are usually on the left end of the spectrum.

She sure looks the part.

 

[IndyDave1776]

C’mon guys. Kut is arguing a very specific point. He didn’t say he agreed with the nomination. He said he is not wiling to say a guy is as guilty of murder for posing in a photo as the peoole who actually did it. This is sounding like the same kinda stuff that happens so often when people are entrenched in sides. If someone is critical of just one position you act like you think he is being critical of all. That’s just not the truth. It’s like he’s saying the dude isn’t literally Hitler and you guys argue as if he supports him, when he clearly said he does not.

If you have an argument with him at all on this it is on whether Chipman is literally “Hitler” or not.

I accounted for that. The photo op was a clear sign of depravity. I allowed for putting him in a mental institution.

 

[DadSmith]

I accounted for that. The photo op was a clear sign of depravity. I allowed for putting him in a mental institution.

Some of those officers were sick on their stomach that day while others posed over the dead bodies. There is a difference in mental health between Chipman and those officers that found it disgusting.

 

[jamil]

I accounted for that. The photo op was a clear sign of depravity. I allowed for putting him in a mental institution.

Okay, but Kut saying that he didn't think you get to lock someone up based on a photo isn't the same thing as saying that he agrees with Chipman's nomination. In fact he said that he didn't agree with the nomination but some of you kept arguing that he did. I'm just setting straight what is real and what is not. If you guys want to argue what should be Chipman's fate, then THAT's the argument. It doesn't mean that disagreeing on one point is disagreeing on all points. I mean, why argue that other stuff?

 

[foszoe]

Not that I care to defend Kut. But I will say something when people don’t seem to be following the conversation. His original complaint was that someone said Chimman deserves to be in a cage because of Waco. Nothing about Chipman’s fitness for the head of the “AFT”. But then you guys start arguing as if not agreeing on that one thing means Kut must support Chipman’s nomination. That’s pretty much what he’s argued. Well, except his obvious patch over his left eye, preventing him from seeing the utter nuttiness on the left.

That's because most here believe the mantra, "some here voted for it".

If a vote is cast for Biden, then that person, by definition, supports everything Biden does.

 

[IndyDave1776]

See? Now you think that because I’m trying to redirect you guys back to reality that I must agree with Kut.

Here’s my opinion on Chipman. He’s an anti-gun zealot. I’m pretty confident that Biden picked him because he plans to use the ATF—correction, Biden renamed it to AFT—to further restrict guns.

About the Waco photo, I don’t know if he directly participated or not. The photo is evidence that suggests tacit support of it, and that’s enough for me as further reasoning that this man should not be allowed anywhere near a seat of power.

Does he need to be locked up? Well, if you have evidence of a crime, file charges and prosecute him. That’s how we do it in a constitutional Republic under the rule of law, rather than the whims of ideologues.

I stand by my position that Chipman belongs in a cage. Even if you excuse participation in mass murder his glorying in mass murder as evidenced in his proud hunter smoldering corpse photo demonstrates him to be a sociopath who needs confined to a mental institution.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

That's because most here believe the mantra, "some here voted for it".

If a vote is cast for Biden, then that person, by definition, supports everything Biden does.

He’s had how many years as an elected official to show who he is? They knew who he was and who they were voting for and you know it.

 

[DadSmith]

That's because most here believe the mantra, "some here voted for it".

If a vote is cast for Biden, then that person, by definition, supports everything Biden does.

No your just responsible for what he does since you put him in office. Just like Trump voters are responsible for things like bumpstock ban and 400 miles of Wall built on border, lower taxes, America 1st, number 1 oil producers, etc etc etc.

 

[jamil]

You think words compare to actions? Hahahaha, alright there.

Again you're saying that voting for someone means you agree with everything the person does. I did not vote for the things Trump did that I did not want him to do. You live with the bad as well as the good. I'm not gonna defend someone voting for Biden. If the bad he's gonna do, like you know what he's gonna do on guns, that is unacceptable. It's not a position I'd defend personally. But it's also not the same thing as supporting it, or wanting it to happen.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I must have missed the people singing his praises. An you’re upset that I’m unwilling to draw a kinship between Chipman and the guys actually dropping cans of Zyklon B, well you’re just gonna have to be mad.

So then, how many people need to be exterminated before it becomes a problem? While we are visiting this point, by the standard applied to Nazi war criminals, Chipman would have been convicted by virtue of having participated.

 

[jamil]

I stand by my position that Chipman belongs in a cage. Even if you excuse participation in mass murder his glorying in mass murder as evidenced in his proud hunter smoldering corpse photo demonstrates him to be a sociopath who needs confined to a mental institution.

I'm not gonna disagree with you where Chipman belongs. I don't disagree that he certainly behaves with depravity. If he broke a law, bring charges, prosecute, and if found guilty, cage him. I don't support just locking people up. If you're taking this that I'm excusing whatever he's done to whichever extent that he's done it, it's another case of thinking that disagreeing on one specific point must mean that it's a disagreement on all points. It doesn't. But I think I may be a little more rule-of-law oriented because I don't want to lock him up by rule of mob.

 

[IndyDave1776]

That's because most here believe the mantra, "some here voted for it".

If a vote is cast for Biden, then that person, by definition, supports everything Biden does.

The people who voted for Biden voted for someone who made it clear that not only would he attack the 2A, it was going to be his signature issue. There is no excuse. Biden made it crystal clear what they were voting for and anyone capable of a small modicum of critical thought should have understood that this meant hiring shitballs like Chipman to carry it out.

Excuse not accepted.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I'm not gonna disagree with you where Chipman belongs. I don't disagree that he certainly behaves with depravity. If he broke a law, bring charges, prosecute, and if found guilty, cage him. I don't support just locking people up. If you're taking this that I'm excusing whatever he's done to whichever extent that he's done it, it's another case of thinking that disagreeing on one specific point must mean that it's a disagreement on all points. It doesn't. But I think I may be a little more rule-of-law oriented because I don't want to lock him up by rule of mob.

Again, if truth were still a relevant issue, I would see little difficulty having him committed to mental institution

 

[Kutnupe14]

No your just responsible for what he does since you put him in office. Just like Trump voters are responsible for things like bumpstock ban and 400 miles of Wall built on border, lower taxes, America 1st, number 1 oil producers, etc etc etc.

...500K COVID deaths due to inept policies, massive unemployment, massive increase in debt, loss of world leadership, more powerful Russia, N.Korea, China, massive administrative exits due to corruption, insurrection, failure to secure elections(Lol), trade war, etc, etc, etc...

You taking the blame for all that?

 

[jamil]

Again, if truth were still a relevant issue, I would see little difficulty having him committed to mental institution

I'm trying my best to make truth relevant. And again, to whatever extent Chipman may deserve whatever punishment you've imagined, there is a process that a constitutional Republic with rule of law goes about it. And if we're saying we're dispensing with the rule of law because it's not always followed when we want it, then we're not a constitutional Republic either. Probably time to stop being patriotic too. Paraphrasing something Trump said, we're either a country or we're not. If we're a country of mob rule, just not lefty mob rule, then **** the founders, right?