And the hits just keep coming.....

[Ingomike]

Welcome to Socialism courtesy of the Democratic Party, ALL are getting the payments, illegal immigrants, the unemployed that are just to lazy to work, welfare recipients who are to lazy to work and even those in prison, free money for all thanks from those of us that actually work or are retired and earned it all.

The question is when are the people going to say enough is enough and put a stop to it?

Communism, communism, with the simultaneous assault on civil rights it is not socialism...

 

[churchmouse]

Why is it that some reliably make the lefty arguments but deny they are leftys?

Well.....cause they love to stir and .
They love it and we are fodder for the beast.

 

[BigRed]

I'm still waiting for those that cast their vote for this piece of **** to show up and tell me how this is good.

 

[JettaKnight]

Be just a bit more clear on who you are referring to so we can load up the cannons and bring them to bear please.

I'm referring to all non-citizens - be it greencards, H1B visas, or illegals who have SSN's that all them to work.

The "cash under table crowd" is probably pretty small.


And if they're send remittances back to South America, income tax is teh only way to get a cut of that money before it leaves.

 

[drillsgt]

I'm referring to all non-citizens - be it greencards, H1B visas, or illegals who have SSN's that all them to work.

The "cash under table crowd" is probably pretty small.


And if they're send remittances back to South America, income tax is teh only way to get a cut of that money before it leaves.

According to the democrats there's only 11 million illegals so i'd be willing to let that go to get rid of income tax. To make up the difference we can just cut off all foreign aid.

 

[churchmouse]

I'm referring to all non-citizens - be it greencards, H1B visas, or illegals who have SSN's that all them to work.

The "cash under table crowd" is probably pretty small.


And if they're send remittances back to South America, income tax is teh only way to get a cut of that money before it leaves.

Just so you are aware, and I say this from direct experience and knowledge of the situation. The cash under the table crowd is freaking "HUGE"
More so than most even know. Seriously. I can take you on a 10 minute drive and show you near 100 or more just around here.
If you see a worn out chevy van with ladders triple stacked on it I give you even odds they are here seasonally, work like dogs, pocket "ALL" the money and head home when the work slows down for winter. And a slew of others that are labor for these cats. Most of them do solid work for a fair rate and kill it time wise. See it every day. They work circles around a local crew.
I have 1 neighbor that s probably the best one we have had and he is a cash guy. Has 4 white guys that work for him. He pays them cash. They work like Mexicans so go figure... I know he pays some taxes but who knows.

Now here is the real question.....if you could live tax free would you.

 

[Magyars]

We keep paying more taxes, and the swamp creatures spend more.
I wonder if we all raised our dependents to the point where we didn't pay taxes if that would starve the federal beast?

 

[JettaKnight]

Just so you are aware, and I say this from direct experience and knowledge of the situation. The cash under the table crowd is freaking "HUGE"
More so than most even know. Seriously. I can take you on a 10 minute drive and show you near 100 or more just around here.
If you see a worn out chevy van with ladders triple stacked on it I give you even odds they are here seasonally, work like dogs, pocket "ALL" the money and head home when the work slows down for winter. And a slew of others that are labor for these cats. Most of them do solid work for a fair rate and kill it time wise. See it every day. They work circles around a local crew.
I have 1 neighbor that s probably the best one we have had and he is a cash guy. Has 4 white guys that work for him. He pays them cash. They work like Mexicans so go figure... I know he pays some taxes but who knows.

Now here is the real question.....if you could live tax free would you.

How much in terms of dollars? Bubba with the Chevy certainly isn't paying top dollar. You can find cash only work, but I certain it's not a "livable wage".

I'm not sure what the right answer is for the question "taxed income vs. cash under the table." My guess is we're both looking at it differently based on our person experiences.


Here's an interesting article with some numbers.
https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/how-do-undocumented-immigrants-pay-federal-taxes-an-explainer/

It's an least worth noting that those folks are helping to prop up that ponzi scheme known as Social Security.
https://www.marketplace.org/2019/01...-pay-billions-social-security-and-receive-no/

My question to you would be, "would you rather them pay tax, or continue off the books?"


Least at least agree that we seriously need immigration reform. The interesting thing is that most of these immigrants align with core Republican beliefs - freedom, low taxes, anti-abortion, marriage, self reliance, families, religion, etc. ... except immigration.

 

[John58]

Why is it that some reliably make the lefty arguments but deny they are leftys?

I can think of two reasons. 1. While they be left, they don't agree with the left. or 2. They are scared to admit it.

Me, I am a Conservative not afraid to admit it. I served this country for over 40 years in the Military and as a Civilian. I took the Oath twice and fully intend to up hold that Oath if necessary.

 

[Chance]

I'm referring to all non-citizens - be it greencards, H1B visas, or illegals who have SSN's that all them to work.

The "cash under table crowd" is probably pretty small.


And if they're send remittances back to South America, income tax is teh only way to get a cut of that money before it leaves.

If that were true the DHS would be able to locate those awaiting their court dates. Explore the % that are never seen again after being released when they have illegally crossed our borders. Legal immigrants to this country are welcome.

 

[BugI02]

You talk like it's just the Democrats that want to control the world.


Bless your heart.

The Democrats don't want the whole world (yet). They just want our part of it

 

[BugI02]

Why is it that some reliably make the lefty arguments but deny they are leftys?

When all you have is a spoon, everything looks like it needs to be stirred?

 

[Ingomike]

If that were true the DHS would be able to locate those awaiting their court dates. Explore the % that are never seen again after being released when they have illegally crossed our borders. Legal immigrants to this country are welcome.

Just a guess on my part, but seeing how the government operates, they likely give a blind eye to SS numbers being used by illegals to roll in some money in the form of taxes.

 

[JettaKnight]

If that were true the DHS would be able to locate those awaiting their court dates. Explore the % that are never seen again after being released when they have illegally crossed our borders. Legal immigrants to this country are welcome.

You can be "awaiting a court date" for years.

 

[JettaKnight]

The Democrats don't want the whole world (yet). They just want our part of it

If you could completely eliminate the DNC, you'd jump on that in a heartbeat.

When all you have is a spoon, everything looks like it needs to be stirred?

When all you have is a knife, everything looks like it needs stabbed?

 

[BugI02]

My question to you would be, "would you rather them pay tax, or continue off the books?"

False choice. I would rather they went home and rebuilt their own countries to be more like mine instead of helping make my country more like theirs

 

[Chance]

You can be "awaiting a court date" for years.

90%

Homeland Security chief says 90% of asylum seekers miss court dates

The acting Homeland Security secretary said on Tuesday that 90 percent of asylum seekers are missing their court dates after being released into the US. Acting Secretary Kevin McAleenan told the Se…

nypost.com

 

[DadSmith]

Oh I am not finger pointing just using your example as a springboard as to how those leeches operate.

But in truth we will never loose those branchs of the military and in my mind we should not. This is a seriously troubled world. We need that line of defense IMHO. How we use them is an issue I agree.

If we stop sending crates of money to 3rd world dictators and countrys that care less than less about us that would be huge. But so much of that finds its way back into the pockets of the POS that set it up and we never see it nor will they stop the revenue streams.

Aiding an enemy of the constitution is treason. So sending money to people that want us destroyed is treasonous.

 

[JettaKnight]

False choice. I would rather they went home and rebuilt their own countries to be more like mine instead of helping make my country more like theirs

People in hell want ice water, too.

 

[BugI02]

People in hell want ice water, too.

Assuming that a good Christian would not be indulging in necromancy or summoning demons, I must assume that is yet another occasion of claiming knowledge you cannot possibly have